could be interesting to see if we need to some numerical analysis in moose and pharo.
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Very interesting.
I did not know about it. You mentioned some book that is related to this code. Which one is this? Cheers, Doru On 2 Mar 2012, at 22:45, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > could be interesting to see if we need to some numerical analysis in moose and pharo. > > I will create a configuration > > > MCSqueaksourceRepository > location: 'http://squeaksource.com/DHBNumerical' > user: '' > password: '' > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Value is always contextual." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Very interesting. > > I did not know about it. > > You mentioned some book that is related to this code. Which one is this? http://www.amazon.com/Object-Oriented-Implementation-Numerical-Methods-Introduction/dp/1558606793 Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/ _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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<[hidden email]> wrote: > could be interesting to see if we need to some numerical analysis in moose and pharo. > > I will create a configuration > > > MCSqueaksourceRepository > location: 'http://squeaksource.com/DHBNumerical' > user: '' > password: '' Thank you. I'm definitively interested by having more mathematical stuff available in Pharo. There is Scipy [1] since a long time for Python and more recently Ruby community do the same with SciRuby [2]. Some time ago, i wrote several random number generators [3] that might be integrated in a numeral analysis packages. At the moment, i'm mostly interested by Runge-Kutta methods [4] in order to solve some ordinary differential equations. I already find some code on the web like this one: http://live.exept.de/doc/online/english/programming/goody_stmath.html What is really important is to be able to test the result of such algorithms. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SciPy [2] http://sciruby.com/ [3] http://www.squeaksource.com/Random.html [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runge%E2%80%93Kutta_methods Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/ _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
It would be really interesting to organize a bit the scientific packages so that we have one nice library to look for.
Serge if you have some code please package it. Stef On Mar 5, 2012, at 4:05 AM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Stéphane Ducasse > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> could be interesting to see if we need to some numerical analysis in moose and pharo. >> >> I will create a configuration >> >> >> MCSqueaksourceRepository >> location: 'http://squeaksource.com/DHBNumerical' >> user: '' >> password: '' > > Thank you. I'm definitively interested by having more mathematical > stuff available in Pharo. > There is Scipy [1] since a long time for Python and more recently Ruby > community do the same with SciRuby [2]. > > Some time ago, i wrote several random number generators [3] that might > be integrated in a numeral analysis packages. > > At the moment, i'm mostly interested by Runge-Kutta methods [4] in > order to solve some ordinary differential equations. > I already find some code on the web like this one: > http://live.exept.de/doc/online/english/programming/goody_stmath.html > > What is really important is to be able to test the result of such algorithms. > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SciPy > [2] http://sciruby.com/ > [3] http://www.squeaksource.com/Random.html > [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runge%E2%80%93Kutta_methods > > Regards, > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:29 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
<[hidden email]> wrote: > It would be really interesting to organize a bit the scientific packages so that we have one nice library to look for. > Serge if you have some code please package it. Yes sure ! Anyone is aware of any Smalltalk code/project that might be used for a scientific library for Smalltalk. At the moment, there is a lot of fragmentation: - DHBNumerical (MIT): http://www.squeaksource.com/DHBNumerical.html - StMath (licence unknown): http://live.exept.de/doc/online/english/programming/goody_stmath.html - MathComplex and MathQuaternion (MIT): http://www.squeaksource.com/Complex.html - Smallapack (MIT): http://www.squeaksource.com/Smallapack.html Who is willing to contribue and in what domain (numerical analysis, matrix, probability distribution, ...) ? Maybe we can propose a GSOC project for a student ? Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/ _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
On Mar 6, 2012, at 3:11 AM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:29 AM, Stéphane Ducasse > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> It would be really interesting to organize a bit the scientific packages so that we have one nice library to look for. >> Serge if you have some code please package it. > > Yes sure ! > > Anyone is aware of any Smalltalk code/project that might be used for a > scientific library for Smalltalk. > At the moment, there is a lot of fragmentation: > > - DHBNumerical (MIT): http://www.squeaksource.com/DHBNumerical.html > - StMath (licence unknown): > http://live.exept.de/doc/online/english/programming/goody_stmath.html > - MathComplex and MathQuaternion (MIT): http://www.squeaksource.com/Complex.html > - Smallapack (MIT): http://www.squeaksource.com/Smallapack.html > > Who is willing to contribue and in what domain (numerical analysis, > matrix, probability distribution, ...) ? > > Maybe we can propose a GSOC project for a student ? why not now we should start to - define a configurationOf for DHB - produce more tests Right now they are all in one class - may be produce some simple doc. I should reread the book (I read it in draft at least 5 times). Stef > Regards, > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi all,
we talked recently on the moose mailing-list about having a more robust library for doing mathematical stuff in Smalltalk like SciPython or SciRuby (see below). If there is enough interested, i'm wondering if we could propose a Google Summer of Code project about that. I could write a draft for the project. Regards, On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Stéphane Ducasse > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> could be interesting to see if we need to some numerical analysis in moose and pharo. >> >> I will create a configuration >> >> >> MCSqueaksourceRepository >> location: 'http://squeaksource.com/DHBNumerical' >> user: '' >> password: '' > > Thank you. I'm definitively interested by having more mathematical > stuff available in Pharo. > There is Scipy [1] since a long time for Python and more recently Ruby > community do the same with SciRuby [2]. > > Some time ago, i wrote several random number generators [3] that might > be integrated in a numeral analysis packages. > > At the moment, i'm mostly interested by Runge-Kutta methods [4] in > order to solve some ordinary differential equations. > I already find some code on the web like this one: > http://live.exept.de/doc/online/english/programming/goody_stmath.html > > What is really important is to be able to test the result of such algorithms. > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SciPy > [2] http://sciruby.com/ > [3] http://www.squeaksource.com/Random.html > [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runge%E2%80%93Kutta_methods > > Regards, > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/ _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
Hi Serge,
There definitely is interest. If you volunteer for mentoring it would be great. Cheers, Doru On 20 Mar 2012, at 04:35, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > Hi all, > > we talked recently on the moose mailing-list about having a more > robust library for doing mathematical stuff in Smalltalk > like SciPython or SciRuby (see below). If there is enough interested, > i'm wondering if we could propose a Google Summer of Code project > about that. I could write a draft for the project. > > Regards, > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Serge Stinckwich > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Stéphane Ducasse >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> could be interesting to see if we need to some numerical analysis in moose and pharo. >>> >>> I will create a configuration >>> >>> >>> MCSqueaksourceRepository >>> location: 'http://squeaksource.com/DHBNumerical' >>> user: '' >>> password: '' >> >> Thank you. I'm definitively interested by having more mathematical >> stuff available in Pharo. >> There is Scipy [1] since a long time for Python and more recently Ruby >> community do the same with SciRuby [2]. >> >> Some time ago, i wrote several random number generators [3] that might >> be integrated in a numeral analysis packages. >> >> At the moment, i'm mostly interested by Runge-Kutta methods [4] in >> order to solve some ordinary differential equations. >> I already find some code on the web like this one: >> http://live.exept.de/doc/online/english/programming/goody_stmath.html >> >> What is really important is to be able to test the result of such algorithms. >> >> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SciPy >> [2] http://sciruby.com/ >> [3] http://www.squeaksource.com/Random.html >> [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runge%E2%80%93Kutta_methods >> >> Regards, >> -- >> Serge Stinckwich >> UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam >> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >> http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > > > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Serge, > > There definitely is interest. If you volunteer for mentoring it would be great. Yes sure i can do it. I can even maybe propose some local students. Do you want to co-mentor ? Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/ _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
I would more want to see what can be done with it :). I have very little knowledge in this area and a bit too little time, but I can try to help.
Doru On 20 Mar 2012, at 07:12, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Hi Serge, >> >> There definitely is interest. If you volunteer for mentoring it would be great. > > Yes sure i can do it. I can even maybe propose some local students. > Do you want to co-mentor ? > > Regards, > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Don't give to get. Just give." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi,
There's a package "Numerical Methods" in Cincoms Public Repository which is - I think - based on the book "Object-Oriented Implementation of Numerical Methods". Is this package already ported? If not, it might be a good starting point. But it needs more documentation... Regards, Steffen Am 20.03.2012, 04:35 Uhr, schrieb Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]>: > Hi all, > > we talked recently on the moose mailing-list about having a more > robust library for doing mathematical stuff in Smalltalk > like SciPython or SciRuby (see below). If there is enough interested, > i'm wondering if we could propose a Google Summer of Code project > about that. I could write a draft for the project. > > Regards, > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Serge Stinckwich > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Stéphane Ducasse >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> could be interesting to see if we need to some numerical analysis in >>> moose and pharo. >>> >>> I will create a configuration >>> >>> >>> MCSqueaksourceRepository >>> location: 'http://squeaksource.com/DHBNumerical' >>> user: '' >>> password: '' >> >> Thank you. I'm definitively interested by having more mathematical >> stuff available in Pharo. >> There is Scipy [1] since a long time for Python and more recently Ruby >> community do the same with SciRuby [2]. >> >> Some time ago, i wrote several random number generators [3] that might >> be integrated in a numeral analysis packages. >> >> At the moment, i'm mostly interested by Runge-Kutta methods [4] in >> order to solve some ordinary differential equations. >> I already find some code on the web like this one: >> http://live.exept.de/doc/online/english/programming/goody_stmath.html >> >> What is really important is to be able to test the result of such >> algorithms. >> >> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SciPy >> [2] http://sciruby.com/ >> [3] http://www.squeaksource.com/Random.html >> [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runge%E2%80%93Kutta_methods >> >> Regards, >> -- >> Serge Stinckwich >> UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam >> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >> http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > > Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
2012/3/20 Steffen Märcker <[hidden email]>:
> Hi, > > There's a package "Numerical Methods" in Cincoms Public Repository which is > - I think - based on the book "Object-Oriented Implementation of Numerical > Methods". Is this package already ported? If not, it might be a good > starting point. But it needs more documentation... Yes there is already the same version for Pharo/Squeak on Squeaksource. There is actually a lot of code dispersed in several projects with some duplication also. The idea is to consolidate everything. Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/ _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
It can imagine that it would be useful for the ST community to have this
cross dialect. Are there any plans in this direction? Ciao, Steffen Am 20.03.2012, 10:34 Uhr, schrieb Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]>: > 2012/3/20 Steffen Märcker <[hidden email]>: >> Hi, >> >> There's a package "Numerical Methods" in Cincoms Public Repository >> which is >> - I think - based on the book "Object-Oriented Implementation of >> Numerical >> Methods". Is this package already ported? If not, it might be a good >> starting point. But it needs more documentation... > > Yes there is already the same version for Pharo/Squeak on Squeaksource. > There is actually a lot of code dispersed in several projects with > some duplication also. > The idea is to consolidate everything. > > Regards, Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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On Mar 20, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > 2012/3/20 Steffen Märcker <[hidden email]>: >> Hi, >> >> There's a package "Numerical Methods" in Cincoms Public Repository which is >> - I think - based on the book "Object-Oriented Implementation of Numerical >> Methods". Is this package already ported? If not, it might be a good >> starting point. But it needs more documentation... > > Yes there is already the same version for Pharo/Squeak on Squeaksource. > There is actually a lot of code dispersed in several projects with > some duplication also. > The idea is to consolidate everything. Yes! > > Regards, > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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2012/3/20 Steffen Märcker <[hidden email]>:
> It can imagine that it would be useful for the ST community to have this > cross dialect. Are there any plans in this direction? Yes in a perfect world, but having already something working on Pharo is a first step. After that people could adapt to other flavors if they want. Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/ _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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It is already ported.
Stef On Mar 20, 2012, at 10:30 AM, Steffen Märcker wrote: > Hi, > > There's a package "Numerical Methods" in Cincoms Public Repository which is - I think - based on the book "Object-Oriented Implementation of Numerical Methods". Is this package already ported? If not, it might be a good starting point. But it needs more documentation... > > Regards, Steffen > > > > Am 20.03.2012, 04:35 Uhr, schrieb Serge Stinckwich <[hidden email]>: > >> Hi all, >> >> we talked recently on the moose mailing-list about having a more >> robust library for doing mathematical stuff in Smalltalk >> like SciPython or SciRuby (see below). If there is enough interested, >> i'm wondering if we could propose a Google Summer of Code project >> about that. I could write a draft for the project. >> >> Regards, >> >> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Serge Stinckwich >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Stéphane Ducasse >>> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> could be interesting to see if we need to some numerical analysis in moose and pharo. >>>> >>>> I will create a configuration >>>> >>>> >>>> MCSqueaksourceRepository >>>> location: 'http://squeaksource.com/DHBNumerical' >>>> user: '' >>>> password: '' >>> >>> Thank you. I'm definitively interested by having more mathematical >>> stuff available in Pharo. >>> There is Scipy [1] since a long time for Python and more recently Ruby >>> community do the same with SciRuby [2]. >>> >>> Some time ago, i wrote several random number generators [3] that might >>> be integrated in a numeral analysis packages. >>> >>> At the moment, i'm mostly interested by Runge-Kutta methods [4] in >>> order to solve some ordinary differential equations. >>> I already find some code on the web like this one: >>> http://live.exept.de/doc/online/english/programming/goody_stmath.html >>> >>> What is really important is to be able to test the result of such algorithms. >>> >>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SciPy >>> [2] http://sciruby.com/ >>> [3] http://www.squeaksource.com/Random.html >>> [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runge%E2%80%93Kutta_methods >>> >>> Regards, >>> -- >>> Serge Stinckwich >>> UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam >>> Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk >>> http://doesnotunderstand.org/ >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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