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Giles Bowkett
Hi all - beyond the brilliance of DabbleDB, can I ask, what are some
other apps that have been built in Seaside that couldn't have been
built another way? I know Auctomatic (a Y Combinator startup) is
building their tools in Seaside - any other interesting examples?

I have the opportunity to build and deploy some apps internally in
Seaside at a big company in the nearish future. Initially it's going
to be a weekends thing, so I'll probably start with a simple blog
and/or wiki, but afterwards, I want to go in an interesting direction.

Also - I'm doing a presentation on Rails and Seaside at OSCON very
soon. It's more a high-level, "what is the future?" kind of thing, but
I would love to sneak in some cool plugs for sites in Seaside, so if
you've got something nifty and you don't mind a little publicity, hook
me up with links. :-)

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Re: "only in seaside" type apps

Lukas Renggli
> any other interesting examples?

http://www.cmsbox.ch (see Produkt | Kunden for more examples)
http://www.juniorwebaward.ch
http://www.seaside.st ;-)
http://www.seasidehosting.st
http://www.squeaksource.com

Lukas

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Re: "only in seaside" type apps

Philippe Marschall
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2007/7/12, Giles Bowkett <[hidden email]>:
> Hi all - beyond the brilliance of DabbleDB, can I ask, what are some
> other apps that have been built in Seaside that couldn't have been
> built another way? I know Auctomatic (a Y Combinator startup) is
> building their tools in Seaside - any other interesting examples?

Anything that can be built with a Turing complete language can be
built with any other Turing complete language.

> I have the opportunity to build and deploy some apps internally in
> Seaside at a big company in the nearish future. Initially it's going
> to be a weekends thing, so I'll probably start with a simple blog
> and/or wiki, but afterwards, I want to go in an interesting direction.

Shouldn't you chosse the tool for the job instead of the other way around?

Philippe

> Also - I'm doing a presentation on Rails and Seaside at OSCON very
> soon. It's more a high-level, "what is the future?" kind of thing, but
> I would love to sneak in some cool plugs for sites in Seaside, so if
> you've got something nifty and you don't mind a little publicity, hook
> me up with links. :-)
>
> --
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>
> Blog: http://gilesbowkett.blogspot.com
> Portfolio: http://www.gilesgoatboy.org
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Re: "only in seaside" type apps

Darius Clarke
How about "social programming" applications.
Something like how a wiki is a social text document creation application.
But, in a "social programming" web site you can update the application/site, in the application/site itself, shared socially through browsers.


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Darius

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Re: "only in seaside" type apps

Dale
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Giles,

Another instance of SqueakSource (http://www.squeaksource.com/), but
running on top of GemStone/S is GemSource (http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss).
And Lukas neglected to mention that his site
(http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/) also running on top of Seaside:).

Dale

Giles Bowkett wrote:

> Hi all - beyond the brilliance of DabbleDB, can I ask, what are some
> other apps that have been built in Seaside that couldn't have been
> built another way? I know Auctomatic (a Y Combinator startup) is
> building their tools in Seaside - any other interesting examples?
>
> I have the opportunity to build and deploy some apps internally in
> Seaside at a big company in the nearish future. Initially it's going
> to be a weekends thing, so I'll probably start with a simple blog
> and/or wiki, but afterwards, I want to go in an interesting direction.
>
> Also - I'm doing a presentation on Rails and Seaside at OSCON very
> soon. It's more a high-level, "what is the future?" kind of thing, but
> I would love to sneak in some cool plugs for sites in Seaside, so if
> you've got something nifty and you don't mind a little publicity, hook
> me up with links. :-)
>

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Re: "only in seaside" type apps

Giles Bowkett
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On 7/12/07, Philippe Marschall <[hidden email]> wrote:
> 2007/7/12, Giles Bowkett <[hidden email]>:
> > Hi all - beyond the brilliance of DabbleDB, can I ask, what are some
> > other apps that have been built in Seaside that couldn't have been
> > built another way? I know Auctomatic (a Y Combinator startup) is
> > building their tools in Seaside - any other interesting examples?
>
> Anything that can be built with a Turing complete language can be
> built with any other Turing complete language.

^couldn't^wouldn't

> > I have the opportunity to build and deploy some apps internally in
> > Seaside at a big company in the nearish future. Initially it's going
> > to be a weekends thing, so I'll probably start with a simple blog
> > and/or wiki, but afterwards, I want to go in an interesting direction.
>
> Shouldn't you chosse the tool for the job instead of the other way around?

Of course. The job here is learning Seaside. The application I develop
in Seaside will be the tool for that job.

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Re: "only in seaside" type apps

Blake-5
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 09:29:19 -0700, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]>  
wrote:

>> any other interesting examples?
>
> http://www.cmsbox.ch (see Produkt | Kunden for more examples)

Damn! Wish my German were better. Or existent, even. That looks cool.

> http://www.juniorwebaward.ch
> http://www.seaside.st ;-)
> http://www.seasidehosting.st
> http://www.squeaksource.com
>
> Lukas
>


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Re: "only in seaside" type apps

Chris Cunnington-5
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There are three on the Demos page of Seaside Parasol not already mentioned.
Run Basic, Bountiful Baby, and Bad Page.

http://www.seasideparasol.com/demos.html

Chris

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Re: "only in seaside" type apps

Ramiro Diaz Trepat
We have just released the implementation of an on-line competition
associated with a T.V. show of The History Channel.

The web site is here:

http://www.thc.tv/classicalbums

It is all developed with Seaside. Running context is:

Linux
Apache (for serving static content and load balancing)
Postgres
SqueakVM 3.9-8
Seaside 2.8
Squeak 3.9

The application is rather small, but I believe it is a great example
of a commercial project developed for a multinational company using
Seaside.  And since so many people is usually asking where are the
successful commercial projects developed on Seaside, I thought It
would be good news to tell the community about this project, that
although small, has corporate customers happy.
The competition is enabled only once a week, during July, for all
spanish speaking countries in Latin America.
Cheers !
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Re: "only in seaside" type apps

Giles Bowkett
> The competition is enabled only once a week, during July, for all
> spanish speaking countries in Latin America.

I'll check it out on Wednesday. :-)

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Re: "only in seaside" type apps

Jason Johnson-3
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Philippe Marschall wrote:
> Anything that can be built with a Turing complete language can be
> built with any other Turing complete language.
>
> Philippe


While being a true statement, it isn't particularly illuminating. :)  
For example, brainf*ck, x86 Assembler, Haskell and Smalltalk are all
Turing complete languages.  You can do the same things in any of them.  
But the amount of work required is going to vary drastically. :)
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Re: "only in seaside" type apps

Marcin Tustin
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On 7/12/07, Philippe Marschall <[hidden email]> wrote:
2007/7/12, Giles Bowkett <[hidden email]>:
> Hi all - beyond the brilliance of DabbleDB, can I ask, what are some
> other apps that have been built in Seaside that couldn't have been
> built another way? I know Auctomatic (a Y Combinator startup) is
> building their tools in Seaside - any other interesting examples?

Anything that can be built with a Turing complete language can be
built with any other Turing complete language.

I have a chisel and some marble, therefore I can build the Taj Mahal.


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