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pharo and db support

Tudor Girba
Hi,

I would like to collect a list of the solutions to link Pharo with  
existing databases. I am interested in both relational and in object  
databases.

Is there a list somewhere? If not and if you know/use/develop/ such a  
solution, it would be great if we could put it together by collecting  
some data about these:

- Pharo project and version
- Supported database vendor and version
- Maturity: prototype/production ready/
- Projects that use this one
- Current development status and maintenance support (if any)
- Website
- Others

Cheers,
Doru

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Re: pharo and db support

Adrian Lienhard
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/PackagesTestedInPharo lists  
SqueakDBX (and Glorp). If people have experience with other drivers  
(like the dedicated Postgresql client [1]), it would be good to add it  
there too.

Cheers,
Adrian

[1] http://www.squeaksource.com/PostgresV2.html

On Nov 26, 2009, at 17:39 , Tudor Girba wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I would like to collect a list of the solutions to link Pharo with
> existing databases. I am interested in both relational and in object
> databases.
>
> Is there a list somewhere? If not and if you know/use/develop/ such a
> solution, it would be great if we could put it together by collecting
> some data about these:
>
> - Pharo project and version
> - Supported database vendor and version
> - Maturity: prototype/production ready/
> - Projects that use this one
> - Current development status and maintenance support (if any)
> - Website
> - Others
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
> --
> www.tudorgirba.com
>
> "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair,
> you will end up with a messy haircut."
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Pharo-project mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project


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Re: pharo and db support

Johan Brichau
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We are using GOODS for a while now and it runs pretty well. I have  
added it to the wikipage.

On 26 Nov 2009, at 17:39, Tudor Girba wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I would like to collect a list of the solutions to link Pharo with
> existing databases. I am interested in both relational and in object
> databases.
>
> Is there a list somewhere? If not and if you know/use/develop/ such a
> solution, it would be great if we could put it together by collecting
> some data about these:
>
> - Pharo project and version
> - Supported database vendor and version
> - Maturity: prototype/production ready/
> - Projects that use this one
> - Current development status and maintenance support (if any)
> - Website
> - Others
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
> --
> www.tudorgirba.com
>
> "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair,
> you will end up with a messy haircut."
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Pharo-project mailing list
> [hidden email]
> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

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Re: pharo and db support

niko.schwarz
Glad to hear it :). Is it really faster than Magma in your experience?

Cheers,

Niko

On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Johan Brichau
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> We are using GOODS for a while now and it runs pretty well. I have
> added it to the wikipage.
>
> On 26 Nov 2009, at 17:39, Tudor Girba wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to collect a list of the solutions to link Pharo with
>> existing databases. I am interested in both relational and in object
>> databases.
>>
>> Is there a list somewhere? If not and if you know/use/develop/ such a
>> solution, it would be great if we could put it together by collecting
>> some data about these:
>>
>> - Pharo project and version
>> - Supported database vendor and version
>> - Maturity: prototype/production ready/
>> - Projects that use this one
>> - Current development status and maintenance support (if any)
>> - Website
>> - Others
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Doru
>>
>> --
>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>
>> "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair,
>> you will end up with a messy haircut."
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Pharo-project mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>
> ----------------------------
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> [hidden email]
>
>
>
>
>
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>



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Re: pharo and db support

Johan Brichau
In our experience, Magma took around 250ms, regardless if the query  
had a large or small set of results.
Using GOODS, our application appears to run as fast as if the object  
collections were kept in-image only (response times of 10ms for our  
queries). Maybe it will run slower for very large object collections  
but since we will not run into that problem, it's not an issue in our  
case.

There's some differences regarding transactions support which we had  
to cope with, but it all seems to run just fine right now.

and thanks for having suggested it! ;-)

On 29 Nov 2009, at 13:26, Niko Schwarz wrote:

> Glad to hear it :). Is it really faster than Magma in your experience?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Niko
>
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Johan Brichau
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> We are using GOODS for a while now and it runs pretty well. I have
>> added it to the wikipage.
>>
>> On 26 Nov 2009, at 17:39, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I would like to collect a list of the solutions to link Pharo with
>>> existing databases. I am interested in both relational and in object
>>> databases.
>>>
>>> Is there a list somewhere? If not and if you know/use/develop/  
>>> such a
>>> solution, it would be great if we could put it together by  
>>> collecting
>>> some data about these:
>>>
>>> - Pharo project and version
>>> - Supported database vendor and version
>>> - Maturity: prototype/production ready/
>>> - Projects that use this one
>>> - Current development status and maintenance support (if any)
>>> - Website
>>> - Others
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>>
>>> --
>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>
>>> "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair,
>>> you will end up with a messy haircut."
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Pharo-project mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>
>> ----------------------------
>> Johan Brichau
>> [hidden email]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Pharo-project mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>
>
>
>
> --
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> twitter.com/nes1983
> Tel: +41 076 235 8683
>
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niko.schwarz
Ah, great :).

On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Johan Brichau
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> In our experience, Magma took around 250ms, regardless if the query
> had a large or small set of results.
> Using GOODS, our application appears to run as fast as if the object
> collections were kept in-image only (response times of 10ms for our
> queries). Maybe it will run slower for very large object collections
> but since we will not run into that problem, it's not an issue in our
> case.
>
> There's some differences regarding transactions support which we had
> to cope with, but it all seems to run just fine right now.
>
> and thanks for having suggested it! ;-)
>
> On 29 Nov 2009, at 13:26, Niko Schwarz wrote:
>
>> Glad to hear it :). Is it really faster than Magma in your experience?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Niko
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Johan Brichau
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> We are using GOODS for a while now and it runs pretty well. I have
>>> added it to the wikipage.
>>>
>>> On 26 Nov 2009, at 17:39, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to collect a list of the solutions to link Pharo with
>>>> existing databases. I am interested in both relational and in object
>>>> databases.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a list somewhere? If not and if you know/use/develop/
>>>> such a
>>>> solution, it would be great if we could put it together by
>>>> collecting
>>>> some data about these:
>>>>
>>>> - Pharo project and version
>>>> - Supported database vendor and version
>>>> - Maturity: prototype/production ready/
>>>> - Projects that use this one
>>>> - Current development status and maintenance support (if any)
>>>> - Website
>>>> - Others
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Doru
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>>
>>>> "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair,
>>>> you will end up with a messy haircut."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Pharo-project mailing list
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>>
>>> ----------------------------
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>>> [hidden email]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> twitter.com/nes1983
>> Tel: +41 076 235 8683
>>
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>
> ----------------------------
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> [hidden email]
>
>
>
>
>
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