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pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

pdigonzelli1
I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working on.
I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile  and does not work.
May be someone can help me.
TIA


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
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pdigonzelli1
Hi, i solve the problem!

./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm --encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit

works very well

TIA


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
IP-Solutiones SRL
Metrotec SRL
25 de Mayo 521
San Miguel de Tucumán
Email: [hidden email]
[hidden email]
Cel: 5493815982714


De: "pablo digonzelli" <[hidden email]>
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]>
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49
Asunto: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working on.
I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile  and does not work.
May be someone can help me.
TIA


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
IP-Solutiones SRL
Metrotec SRL
25 de Mayo 521
San Miguel de Tucumán
Email: [hidden email]
[hidden email]
Cel: 5493815982714

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pdigonzelli1
Hi again, i cannot do it work for a windows 2012 server. it seems --no-quit does not work .
Any suggestion?


TIA


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
IP-Solutiones SRL
Metrotec SRL
25 de Mayo 521
San Miguel de Tucumán
Email: [hidden email]
[hidden email]
Cel: 5493815982714


De: "Pablo Digonzelli" <[hidden email]>
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]>
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 16:20:08
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

Hi, i solve the problem!

./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm --encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit

works very well

TIA


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
IP-Solutiones SRL
Metrotec SRL
25 de Mayo 521
San Miguel de Tucumán
Email: [hidden email]
[hidden email]
Cel: 5493815982714


De: "pablo digonzelli" <[hidden email]>
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]>
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49
Asunto: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working on.
I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile  and does not work.
May be someone can help me.
TIA


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
IP-Solutiones SRL
Metrotec SRL
25 de Mayo 521
San Miguel de Tucumán
Email: [hidden email]
[hidden email]
Cel: 5493815982714

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Re: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

philippeback

Headless on windows is not working I think.

There is code in the VM but it looks more dead than alive. There is a console version of Squeak and we may want to revive that. There us even code for a Windows service in there...

Phil

Le 12 mars 2015 20:41, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <[hidden email]> a écrit :
Hi again, i cannot do it work for a windows 2012 server. it seems --no-quit does not work .
Any suggestion?


TIA


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
IP-Solutiones SRL
Metrotec SRL
25 de Mayo 521
San Miguel de Tucumán
Email: [hidden email]
[hidden email]
Cel: 5493815982714


De: "Pablo Digonzelli" <[hidden email]>
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]>
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 16:20:08
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

Hi, i solve the problem!

./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm --encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit

works very well

TIA


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
IP-Solutiones SRL
Metrotec SRL
25 de Mayo 521
San Miguel de Tucumán
Email: [hidden email]
[hidden email]
Cel: 5493815982714


De: "pablo digonzelli" <[hidden email]>
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]>
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49
Asunto: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working on.
I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile  and does not work.
May be someone can help me.
TIA


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
IP-Solutiones SRL
Metrotec SRL
25 de Mayo 521
San Miguel de Tucumán
Email: [hidden email]
[hidden email]
Cel: 5493815982714

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Re: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

EstebanLM

On 12 Mar 2015, at 21:23, [hidden email] wrote:

Headless on windows is not working I think.

that’s not related, —no-quit should be working (and —headless should be letting a window in the try). 

can you provide more information? 

vm version?
image version? 
anything relevant?

just asking without information is like going to the doctor and just say “it hurts me”… not much we can do to help. 

Esteban

There is code in the VM but it looks more dead than alive. There is a console version of Squeak and we may want to revive that. There us even code for a Windows service in there...

Phil

Le 12 mars 2015 20:41, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <[hidden email]> a écrit :
Hi again, i cannot do it work for a windows 2012 server. it seems --no-quit does not work .
Any suggestion?


TIA


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
IP-Solutiones SRL
Metrotec SRL
25 de Mayo 521
San Miguel de Tucumán
Email: [hidden email]
[hidden email]
Cel: 5493815982714


De: "Pablo Digonzelli" <[hidden email]>
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]>
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 16:20:08
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

Hi, i solve the problem!

./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm --encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit

works very well

TIA


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
IP-Solutiones SRL
Metrotec SRL
25 de Mayo 521
San Miguel de Tucumán
Email: [hidden email]
[hidden email]
Cel: 5493815982714


De: "pablo digonzelli" <[hidden email]>
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]>
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49
Asunto: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working on.
I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile  and does not work.
May be someone can help me.
TIA


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
IP-Solutiones SRL
Metrotec SRL
25 de Mayo 521
San Miguel de Tucumán
Email: [hidden email]
[hidden email]
Cel: 5493815982714


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pdigonzelli1
I think phil is right. -vm-display-null is the question . it aborts the process.
Does not matter wich vm and image are you using.
For example i am trying pharo4 latest image latest vm.


TIA


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
IP-Solutiones SRL
Metrotec SRL
25 de Mayo 521
San Miguel de Tucumán
Email: [hidden email]
[hidden email]
Cel: 5493815982714


De: "Esteban Lorenzano" <[hidden email]>
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]>
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 17:42:55
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app


On 12 Mar 2015, at 21:23, [hidden email] wrote:

Headless on windows is not working I think.

that’s not related, —no-quit should be working (and —headless should be letting a window in the try). 

can you provide more information? 

vm version?
image version? 
anything relevant?

just asking without information is like going to the doctor and just say “it hurts me”… not much we can do to help. 

Esteban

There is code in the VM but it looks more dead than alive. There is a console version of Squeak and we may want to revive that. There us even code for a Windows service in there...

Phil

Le 12 mars 2015 20:41, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <[hidden email]> a écrit :
Hi again, i cannot do it work for a windows 2012 server. it seems --no-quit does not work .
Any suggestion?


TIA


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
IP-Solutiones SRL
Metrotec SRL
25 de Mayo 521
San Miguel de Tucumán
Email: [hidden email]
[hidden email]
Cel: 5493815982714


De: "Pablo Digonzelli" <[hidden email]>
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]>
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 16:20:08
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

Hi, i solve the problem!

./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm --encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit

works very well

TIA


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
IP-Solutiones SRL
Metrotec SRL
25 de Mayo 521
San Miguel de Tucumán
Email: [hidden email]
[hidden email]
Cel: 5493815982714


De: "pablo digonzelli" <[hidden email]>
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]>
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49
Asunto: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working on.
I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile  and does not work.
May be someone can help me.
TIA


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
IP-Solutiones SRL
Metrotec SRL
25 de Mayo 521
San Miguel de Tucumán
Email: [hidden email]
[hidden email]
Cel: 5493815982714



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David T. Lewis
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 06:23:28PM -0300, Pablo R. Digonzelli wrote:
> I think phil is right. -vm-display-null is the question . it aborts the process.
> Does not matter wich vm and image are you using.
> For example i am trying pharo4 latest image latest vm.

The -vm-display-null parameter is specific to Ian Piumarta's unix VM. It is
part of the loadable VM module system that he made for sound and displays.
You will find this in the various VMs that run on top of Ian platform code.
The Windows VMs originate from Andreas Raab's code base, which has different
VM command line parameters.

For common things like starting a headless VM, it would be a good idea to
make the command line parameters consistent across VMs. Maybe that could be
done most easily in the start scripts, as opposed to the VM executables.

Dave


>
>
> TIA
>
>
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
> Software Solutions
> IP-Solutiones SRL
> Metrotec SRL
> 25 de Mayo 521
> San Miguel de Tucum??n
> Email: [hidden email]
> [hidden email]
> Cel: 5493815982714
>
>
> De: "Esteban Lorenzano" <[hidden email]>
> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]>
> Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 17:42:55
> Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12 Mar 2015, at 21:23, [hidden email] wrote:
>
>
>
> Headless on windows is not working I think.
>
>
>
> that???s not related, ???no-quit should be working (and ???headless should be letting a window in the try).
>
> can you provide more information?
>
> vm version?
> image version?
> anything relevant?
>
> just asking without information is like going to the doctor and just say ???it hurts me?????? not much we can do to help.
>
> Esteban
>
>
> BQ_BEGIN
>
>
>
> There is code in the VM but it looks more dead than alive. There is a console version of Squeak and we may want to revive that. There us even code for a Windows service in there...
>
> Phil
> Le 12 mars 2015 20:41, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < [hidden email] > a ??crit :
>
> BQ_BEGIN
>
> Hi again, i cannot do it work for a windows 2012 server. it seems --no-quit does not work .
> Any suggestion?
>
>
> TIA
>
>
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
> Software Solutions
> IP-Solutiones SRL
> Metrotec SRL
> 25 de Mayo 521
> San Miguel de Tucum??n
> Email: [hidden email]
> [hidden email]
> Cel: 5493815982714
>
>
> De: "Pablo Digonzelli" < [hidden email] >
> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < [hidden email] >
> Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 16:20:08
> Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app
>
> Hi, i solve the problem!
>
> ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm --encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit
>
> works very well
>
> TIA
>
>
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
> Software Solutions
> IP-Solutiones SRL
> Metrotec SRL
> 25 de Mayo 521
> San Miguel de Tucum??n
> Email: [hidden email]
> [hidden email]
> Cel: 5493815982714
>
>
> De: "pablo digonzelli" < [hidden email] >
> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < [hidden email] >
> Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49
> Asunto: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app
>
> I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working on.
> I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile and does not work.
> May be someone can help me.
> TIA
>
>
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
> Software Solutions
> IP-Solutiones SRL
> Metrotec SRL
> 25 de Mayo 521
> San Miguel de Tucum??n
> Email: [hidden email]
> [hidden email]
> Cel: 5493815982714
>
>
> BQ_END
>
>
> BQ_END
>
>
>

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pdigonzelli1
I understand , wher can i get Andrea's command line info?
TIA

Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
IP-Solutiones SRL
Metrotec SRL
25 de Mayo 521
San Miguel de Tucumán
Email: [hidden email]
[hidden email]
Cel: 5493815982714

----- Mensaje original -----
De: "David T. Lewis" <[hidden email]>
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]>
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 20:54:20
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 06:23:28PM -0300, Pablo R. Digonzelli wrote:
> I think phil is right. -vm-display-null is the question . it aborts the process.
> Does not matter wich vm and image are you using.
> For example i am trying pharo4 latest image latest vm.

The -vm-display-null parameter is specific to Ian Piumarta's unix VM. It is
part of the loadable VM module system that he made for sound and displays.
You will find this in the various VMs that run on top of Ian platform code.
The Windows VMs originate from Andreas Raab's code base, which has different
VM command line parameters.

For common things like starting a headless VM, it would be a good idea to
make the command line parameters consistent across VMs. Maybe that could be
done most easily in the start scripts, as opposed to the VM executables.

Dave


>
>
> TIA
>
>
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
> Software Solutions
> IP-Solutiones SRL
> Metrotec SRL
> 25 de Mayo 521
> San Miguel de Tucum??n
> Email: [hidden email]
> [hidden email]
> Cel: 5493815982714
>
>
> De: "Esteban Lorenzano" <[hidden email]>
> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]>
> Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 17:42:55
> Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12 Mar 2015, at 21:23, [hidden email] wrote:
>
>
>
> Headless on windows is not working I think.
>
>
>
> that???s not related, ???no-quit should be working (and ???headless should be letting a window in the try).
>
> can you provide more information?
>
> vm version?
> image version?
> anything relevant?
>
> just asking without information is like going to the doctor and just say ???it hurts me?????? not much we can do to help.
>
> Esteban
>
>
> BQ_BEGIN
>
>
>
> There is code in the VM but it looks more dead than alive. There is a console version of Squeak and we may want to revive that. There us even code for a Windows service in there...
>
> Phil
> Le 12 mars 2015 20:41, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < [hidden email] > a ??crit :
>
> BQ_BEGIN
>
> Hi again, i cannot do it work for a windows 2012 server. it seems --no-quit does not work .
> Any suggestion?
>
>
> TIA
>
>
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
> Software Solutions
> IP-Solutiones SRL
> Metrotec SRL
> 25 de Mayo 521
> San Miguel de Tucum??n
> Email: [hidden email]
> [hidden email]
> Cel: 5493815982714
>
>
> De: "Pablo Digonzelli" < [hidden email] >
> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < [hidden email] >
> Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 16:20:08
> Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app
>
> Hi, i solve the problem!
>
> ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm --encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit
>
> works very well
>
> TIA
>
>
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
> Software Solutions
> IP-Solutiones SRL
> Metrotec SRL
> 25 de Mayo 521
> San Miguel de Tucum??n
> Email: [hidden email]
> [hidden email]
> Cel: 5493815982714
>
>
> De: "pablo digonzelli" < [hidden email] >
> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < [hidden email] >
> Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49
> Asunto: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app
>
> I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working on.
> I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile and does not work.
> May be someone can help me.
> TIA
>
>
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
> Software Solutions
> IP-Solutiones SRL
> Metrotec SRL
> 25 de Mayo 521
> San Miguel de Tucum??n
> Email: [hidden email]
> [hidden email]
> Cel: 5493815982714
>
>
> BQ_END
>
>
> BQ_END
>
>
>

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EstebanLM
squeak vm info is for squeak vm, not for pharo vm (which has some differences… for example).

I will ask you again to give us more information about your command line, what you are trying to do, etc. 

otherwise you will stay flipping around, because people will answer in general… not very useful for you.

Esteban

On 13 Mar 2015, at 16:21, Pablo R. Digonzelli <[hidden email]> wrote:

I understand , wher can i get Andrea's command line info?
TIA

Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucumán 
Email: [hidden email] 
[hidden email] 
Cel: 5493815982714

----- Mensaje original -----
De: "David T. Lewis" <[hidden email]>
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]>
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 20:54:20
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 06:23:28PM -0300, Pablo R. Digonzelli wrote:
I think phil is right. -vm-display-null is the question . it aborts the process. 
Does not matter wich vm and image are you using. 
For example i am trying pharo4 latest image latest vm. 

The -vm-display-null parameter is specific to Ian Piumarta's unix VM. It is
part of the loadable VM module system that he made for sound and displays.
You will find this in the various VMs that run on top of Ian platform code.
The Windows VMs originate from Andreas Raab's code base, which has different
VM command line parameters.

For common things like starting a headless VM, it would be a good idea to
make the command line parameters consistent across VMs. Maybe that could be
done most easily in the start scripts, as opposed to the VM executables.

Dave




TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucum??n 
Email: [hidden email] 
[hidden email] 
Cel: 5493815982714 


De: "Esteban Lorenzano" <[hidden email]> 
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]> 
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 17:42:55 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 





On 12 Mar 2015, at 21:23, [hidden email] wrote: 



Headless on windows is not working I think. 



that???s not related, ???no-quit should be working (and ???headless should be letting a window in the try). 

can you provide more information? 

vm version? 
image version? 
anything relevant? 

just asking without information is like going to the doctor and just say ???it hurts me?????? not much we can do to help. 

Esteban 


BQ_BEGIN



There is code in the VM but it looks more dead than alive. There is a console version of Squeak and we may want to revive that. There us even code for a Windows service in there... 

Phil 
Le 12 mars 2015 20:41, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < [hidden email] > a ??crit : 

BQ_BEGIN

Hi again, i cannot do it work for a windows 2012 server. it seems --no-quit does not work . 
Any suggestion? 


TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucum??n 
Email: [hidden email] 
[hidden email] 
Cel: 5493815982714 


De: "Pablo Digonzelli" < [hidden email] > 
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < [hidden email] > 
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 16:20:08 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 

Hi, i solve the problem! 

./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm --encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit 

works very well 

TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucum??n 
Email: [hidden email] 
[hidden email] 
Cel: 5493815982714 


De: "pablo digonzelli" < [hidden email] > 
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < [hidden email] > 
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49 
Asunto: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 

I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working on. 
I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile and does not work. 
May be someone can help me. 
TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucum??n 
Email: [hidden email] 
[hidden email] 
Cel: 5493815982714 


BQ_END


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Re: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

pdigonzelli1
Esteban, i am trying to deploy a Seaside app in Windows. I want pharo running headless and i will want to implement it as Windows Service.

But does not matter. Trying start pharo4 last image last vm ( https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/) in headless .

pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null  imagefile.image --no-quit. It does not work. Abort

pharo -vm-sound-null  imagefile.image --no-quit. I works but with gui.

I hope it will help you to understand the situation.



Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
Software Solutions
IP-Solutiones SRL
Metrotec SRL
25 de Mayo 521
San Miguel de Tucumán
Email: [hidden email]
[hidden email]
Cel: 5493815982714


De: "Esteban Lorenzano" <[hidden email]>
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]>
Enviados: Viernes, 13 de Marzo 2015 14:00:52
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

squeak vm info is for squeak vm, not for pharo vm (which has some differences… for example).

I will ask you again to give us more information about your command line, what you are trying to do, etc. 

otherwise you will stay flipping around, because people will answer in general… not very useful for you.

Esteban

On 13 Mar 2015, at 16:21, Pablo R. Digonzelli <[hidden email]> wrote:

I understand , wher can i get Andrea's command line info?
TIA

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----- Mensaje original -----
De: "David T. Lewis" <[hidden email]>
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]>
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 20:54:20
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 06:23:28PM -0300, Pablo R. Digonzelli wrote:
I think phil is right. -vm-display-null is the question . it aborts the process. 
Does not matter wich vm and image are you using. 
For example i am trying pharo4 latest image latest vm. 

The -vm-display-null parameter is specific to Ian Piumarta's unix VM. It is
part of the loadable VM module system that he made for sound and displays.
You will find this in the various VMs that run on top of Ian platform code.
The Windows VMs originate from Andreas Raab's code base, which has different
VM command line parameters.

For common things like starting a headless VM, it would be a good idea to
make the command line parameters consistent across VMs. Maybe that could be
done most easily in the start scripts, as opposed to the VM executables.

Dave




TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucum??n 
Email: [hidden email] 
[hidden email] 
Cel: 5493815982714 


De: "Esteban Lorenzano" <[hidden email]> 
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]> 
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 17:42:55 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 





On 12 Mar 2015, at 21:23, [hidden email] wrote: 



Headless on windows is not working I think. 



that???s not related, ???no-quit should be working (and ???headless should be letting a window in the try). 

can you provide more information? 

vm version? 
image version? 
anything relevant? 

just asking without information is like going to the doctor and just say ???it hurts me?????? not much we can do to help. 

Esteban 


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There is code in the VM but it looks more dead than alive. There is a console version of Squeak and we may want to revive that. There us even code for a Windows service in there... 

Phil 
Le 12 mars 2015 20:41, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < [hidden email] > a ??crit : 

BQ_BEGIN

Hi again, i cannot do it work for a windows 2012 server. it seems --no-quit does not work . 
Any suggestion? 


TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucum??n 
Email: [hidden email] 
[hidden email] 
Cel: 5493815982714 


De: "Pablo Digonzelli" < [hidden email] > 
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < [hidden email] > 
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 16:20:08 
Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 

Hi, i solve the problem! 

./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm --encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit 

works very well 

TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucum??n 
Email: [hidden email] 
[hidden email] 
Cel: 5493815982714 


De: "pablo digonzelli" < [hidden email] > 
Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < [hidden email] > 
Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49 
Asunto: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app 

I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working on. 
I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile and does not work. 
May be someone can help me. 
TIA 


Ing. Pablo Digonzelli 
Software Solutions 
IP-Solutiones SRL 
Metrotec SRL 
25 de Mayo 521 
San Miguel de Tucum??n 
Email: [hidden email] 
[hidden email] 
Cel: 5493815982714 


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Re: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app

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There is WinMain in  sqWin32Intel.c

and

LRESULT CALLBACK MainWndProcW(HWND hwnd,
                              UINT message,
                              WPARAM wParam,
                              LPARAM lParam)

is in sqWin32Window.c

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18709403/winmain-vs-main-c

sqWin32Service.c has Windows service support but I don't know how this works.

In WinMain, we get this:

case 1: /* full usage */
      abortMessage(TEXT("%s"),
                   TEXT("Usage: " VM_NAME " [vmOptions] imageFile
[imageOptions]\n\n")
                   TEXT("vmOptions:")
           /* TEXT("\n\t-service: ServiceName \t(install Squeak as NT
service)") */
                   TEXT("\n\t--headless \t\t(force Squeak to run headless)")
                   TEXT("\n\t--timephases (print start load and run times)")
                   TEXT("\n\t--log: LogFile \t\t(use LogFile for VM messages)")

But the code appears to still exist...

parseVMArgument(int argc, char *argv[])
{
    /* flags */
    if (!strcmp(argv[0], "--help"))        {
        printUsage(1);
        return 1;
    }
    else if (!strcmp(argv[0], "--version"))    { versionInfo();    return 1; }
    else if (!strcmp(argv[0], "--headless")) { fHeadlessImage = true;
return 1; }
    else if (!strcmp(argv[0], "--headfull")) { fHeadlessImage = false;
return 1;}
    else if (!strcmp(argv[0], "--timephases")) {
        printPhaseTime(1);
        return 1;
    }
#ifdef  VISTA_SECURITY /* IE7/Vista protected mode support */
    /* started with low rights, use alternate untrustedUserDirectory */
    else if (!strcmp(argv[0], "--lowRights")) { fLowRights = true; return 1; }
#endif /* VISTA_SECURITY */
#if (STACKVM || NewspeakVM) && !COGVM
    else if (!strcmp(argv[0], "--sendtrace"))
        { extern sqInt sendTrace; sendTrace = 1; return 1; }
#endif

    /* parameters */
    else if (argc > 1 && !strcmp(argv[0], "--service")) {
        installServiceName = argv[1];
        return 2;
    }
    else if (!strncmp(argv[0], "--service:", 9)) {
        installServiceName = argv[0] + 9;
        return 1;
    }
    else if (argc > 1 && !strcmp(argv[0], "--log")) {
        logName = argv[1];
        return 2;
    }
    else if (!strncmp(argv[0], "--log:", 5)) {
        logName = argv[0] + 5;
        return 1;
    }


But despite these options, there is no service nor headless thing working atm.

What is the basic thing to do to get Pharo running as a service?

I can compile the Windows VM, so, the next step would be to get this working.
Which I could do if pointed in a given direction by VM experts who are
in the know.

A lot of the Windows VM code is Andreas code but we need to take that
back into our hands.

Phil




On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

> squeak vm info is for squeak vm, not for pharo vm (which has some
> differences… for example).
>
> I will ask you again to give us more information about your command line,
> what you are trying to do, etc.
>
> otherwise you will stay flipping around, because people will answer in
> general… not very useful for you.
>
> Esteban
>
> On 13 Mar 2015, at 16:21, Pablo R. Digonzelli <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I understand , wher can i get Andrea's command line info?
> TIA
>
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
> Software Solutions
> IP-Solutiones SRL
> Metrotec SRL
> 25 de Mayo 521
> San Miguel de Tucumán
> Email: [hidden email]
> [hidden email]
> Cel: 5493815982714
>
> ----- Mensaje original -----
> De: "David T. Lewis" <[hidden email]>
> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]>
> Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 20:54:20
> Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 06:23:28PM -0300, Pablo R. Digonzelli wrote:
>
> I think phil is right. -vm-display-null is the question . it aborts the
> process.
> Does not matter wich vm and image are you using.
> For example i am trying pharo4 latest image latest vm.
>
>
> The -vm-display-null parameter is specific to Ian Piumarta's unix VM. It is
> part of the loadable VM module system that he made for sound and displays.
> You will find this in the various VMs that run on top of Ian platform code.
> The Windows VMs originate from Andreas Raab's code base, which has different
> VM command line parameters.
>
> For common things like starting a headless VM, it would be a good idea to
> make the command line parameters consistent across VMs. Maybe that could be
> done most easily in the start scripts, as opposed to the VM executables.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> TIA
>
>
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
> Software Solutions
> IP-Solutiones SRL
> Metrotec SRL
> 25 de Mayo 521
> San Miguel de Tucum??n
> Email: [hidden email]
> [hidden email]
> Cel: 5493815982714
>
>
> De: "Esteban Lorenzano" <[hidden email]>
> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]>
> Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 17:42:55
> Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12 Mar 2015, at 21:23, [hidden email] wrote:
>
>
>
> Headless on windows is not working I think.
>
>
>
> that???s not related, ???no-quit should be working (and ???headless should
> be letting a window in the try).
>
> can you provide more information?
>
> vm version?
> image version?
> anything relevant?
>
> just asking without information is like going to the doctor and just say
> ???it hurts me?????? not much we can do to help.
>
> Esteban
>
>
> BQ_BEGIN
>
>
>
> There is code in the VM but it looks more dead than alive. There is a
> console version of Squeak and we may want to revive that. There us even code
> for a Windows service in there...
>
> Phil
> Le 12 mars 2015 20:41, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < [hidden email] > a
> ??crit :
>
> BQ_BEGIN
>
> Hi again, i cannot do it work for a windows 2012 server. it seems --no-quit
> does not work .
> Any suggestion?
>
>
> TIA
>
>
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
> Software Solutions
> IP-Solutiones SRL
> Metrotec SRL
> 25 de Mayo 521
> San Miguel de Tucum??n
> Email: [hidden email]
> [hidden email]
> Cel: 5493815982714
>
>
> De: "Pablo Digonzelli" < [hidden email] >
> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < [hidden email] >
> Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 16:20:08
> Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app
>
> Hi, i solve the problem!
>
> ./pharo-vm/pharo -vm-display-null -vm-sound-null --plugins ./pharo-vm
> --encoding utf8 imagefile.image --no-quit
>
> works very well
>
> TIA
>
>
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
> Software Solutions
> IP-Solutiones SRL
> Metrotec SRL
> 25 de Mayo 521
> San Miguel de Tucum??n
> Email: [hidden email]
> [hidden email]
> Cel: 5493815982714
>
>
> De: "pablo digonzelli" < [hidden email] >
> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < [hidden email] >
> Enviados: Jueves, 12 de Marzo 2015 15:47:49
> Asunto: pharo headless and without gui. Seaside app
>
> I need to run pharo headless and without gui for a Seaside app i am working
> on.
> I user pharo -vm-display-null --headless imagefile and does not work.
> May be someone can help me.
> TIA
>
>
> Ing. Pablo Digonzelli
> Software Solutions
> IP-Solutiones SRL
> Metrotec SRL
> 25 de Mayo 521
> San Miguel de Tucum??n
> Email: [hidden email]
> [hidden email]
> Cel: 5493815982714
>
>
> BQ_END
>
>
> BQ_END
>
>



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