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pharocloud alternative

Hi,

I am running to Pharo/Seaside apps on pharocloud. Now the service will be closed. Does anyone know a comparable alternative?

Johannes

Sven Van Caekenberghe-2

Re: pharocloud alternative

> On 30 May 2017, at 11:46, Johannes Brauer <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am running to Pharo/Seaside apps on pharocloud. Now the service will be closed. Does anyone know a comparable alternative?
>
> Johannes

You can try deploying a full server yourself, it is not as difficult as it sounds.

https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/book-result/WebApp/WebApp.html

The above describes how to do it on DigitalOcean which starts at $5 a month.

Sven

Re: pharocloud alternative

I appreciated the ease of use of pharocloud. I had to upload my pharo-image and done.

Nevertheless, thank you for your tip, Sven

Johannes

> Am 30.05.2017 um 12:02 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]>:
>
>
>> On 30 May 2017, at 11:46, Johannes Brauer <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am running to Pharo/Seaside apps on pharocloud. Now the service will be closed. Does anyone know a comparable alternative?
>>
>> Johannes
>
> You can try deploying a full server yourself, it is not as difficult as it sounds.
>
> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/book-result/WebApp/WebApp.html
>
> The above describes how to do it on DigitalOcean which starts at $5 a month.
>
> Sven

Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas-2

Re: pharocloud alternative

Hi,

I recently followed the Enterprise Pharo documentation on how to deploy
my own image on my own digital ocean server. It took less that 10
minutes, from 0 to custom app on server. So, yes is not so convenient as
just uploading the images, but is a good option now that Pharo Cloud is
closing.

Cheers,

Offray

On 30/05/17 05:24, Johannes Brauer wrote:

> I appreciated the ease of use of pharocloud. I had to upload my pharo-image and done.
>
> Nevertheless, thank you for your tip, Sven
>
> Johannes
>> Am 30.05.2017 um 12:02 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]>:
>>
>>
>>> On 30 May 2017, at 11:46, Johannes Brauer <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am running to Pharo/Seaside apps on pharocloud. Now the service will be closed. Does anyone know a comparable alternative?
>>>
>>> Johannes
>> You can try deploying a full server yourself, it is not as difficult as it sounds.
>>
>> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/book-result/WebApp/WebApp.html
>>
>> The above describes how to do it on DigitalOcean which starts at $5 a month.
>>
>> Sven
>
>

Georges

Re: pharocloud alternative

In reply to this post by jb

Hello jb,

I have the same problem, I am also running two pharocloud instances.
Yesterday I created a droplet on digital ocean.
I Installed a desktop environment and VNC on it and with an ftp client I uploaded my images.
Now I can run multiple images and serve on different ports.

Georges

Alejandro Infante

Re: pharocloud alternative

I also host my application in Digital Ocean. It is cheap, but still is a pain the maintenance of the server. Any serious business-application should take care of user privileges, firewall directives, database configuration, database replication, backups, keep-alive of Pharo, etc…

This year I will port everything to AWS or Azure. I expect it to be easier to deploy there, but I’ll let you know about my experience when the time comes.

Cheers,
Alejandro

> On May 30, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Georges <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hello jb,
>
> I have the same problem, I am also running two pharocloud instances.
> Yesterday I created a droplet on digital ocean.
> I Installed a desktop environment and VNC on it and with an ftp client I
> uploaded my images.
> Now I can run multiple images and serve on different ports.
>
> Georges
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/pharocloud-alternative-tp4948625p4948647.html
> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas-2

Re: pharocloud alternative

So far I have had a painless Digital Ocean experience with my setup. May
be is too simple, but DO suits my needs so far. Anyway, I would like to
know about your experience with other hosting providers.

Cheers,

Offray

On 30/05/17 11:00, Alejandro Infante wrote:

> I also host my application in Digital Ocean. It is cheap, but still is a pain the maintenance of the server. Any serious business-application should take care of user privileges, firewall directives, database configuration, database replication, backups, keep-alive of Pharo, etc…
>
> This year I will port everything to AWS or Azure. I expect it to be easier to deploy there, but I’ll let you know about my experience when the time comes.
>
> Cheers,
> Alejandro
>
>> On May 30, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Georges <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hello jb,
>>
>> I have the same problem, I am also running two pharocloud instances.
>> Yesterday I created a droplet on digital ocean.
>> I Installed a desktop environment and VNC on it and with an ftp client I
>> uploaded my images.
>> Now I can run multiple images and serve on different ports.
>>
>> Georges
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/pharocloud-alternative-tp4948625p4948647.html
>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>
>

Stephan Eggermont-3

Re: pharocloud alternative

In reply to this post by Alejandro Infante

On 30/05/17 18:00, Alejandro Infante wrote:
> This year I will port everything to AWS or Azure. I expect it to be
> easier to deploy there, but I’ll let you know about my experience
> when the time comes.

I'm pretty sure it is not easier at all. But please provide us with your
experiences.

Stephan

Petr Fischer

Re: pharocloud alternative

In reply to this post by jb

Why will be pharocloud closed? Where is the message? Thanks, pf

> Hi,
>
> I am running to Pharo/Seaside apps on pharocloud. Now the service will be closed. Does anyone know a comparable alternative?
>
> Johannes

Tim Mackinnon

Re: pharocloud alternative

In reply to this post by Stephan Eggermont-3

I really, really wish that we had a vm that worked on AWS Lambda… I think this is the future of computing - and I would dearly love to understand the “smalltalk” approach to function as a service (FAAS). In particular how you debug apps.

I was struck by Phil’s demo at Pharo days, where he talked about debugging XMPP apps, and how he could… when I run Node apps on Lambda, it works, but its incredibly unproductive both in debugging and deploying small changes. I really think we have much nicer solutions in the Smalltalk world - but I have no idea if we could get a smalltalk vm to work in Lambda or the google app engine alternative.

As indicated here - I don’t want to spend time worrying about servers any more - I just want to call cloud functions and write my code….

Tim

> On 30 May 2017, at 21:12, Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On 30/05/17 18:00, Alejandro Infante wrote:
>> This year I will port everything to AWS or Azure. I expect it to be
>> easier to deploy there, but I’ll let you know about my experience
>> when the time comes.
>
> I'm pretty sure it is not easier at all. But please provide us with your experiences.
>
> Stephan
>
>

Re: pharocloud alternative

In reply to this post by Petr Fischer

You see the message when you log in to the pharocloud management console. It says that there is a „lack of resources“.

Johannes

> Am 30.05.2017 um 23:05 schrieb Petr Fischer <[hidden email]>:
>
> Why will be pharocloud closed? Where is the message? Thanks, pf
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am running to Pharo/Seaside apps on pharocloud. Now the service will be closed. Does anyone know a comparable alternative?
>>
>> Johannes
>