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EstebanLM

please test download for Pharo 6.0

Hello,

we are getting ready for release.

please take a minute to review:

http://pharo.org/STAGE.download

(notice that zerconf download will not work because it is not yet moved… so #stable will download current stable version which is 5.0)

cheers,

Esteban

Sven Van Caekenberghe-2

Re: please test download for Pharo 6.0

> On 31 May 2017, at 16:18, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> we are getting ready for release.
> please take a minute to review:
>
> http://pharo.org/STAGE.download
>
> (notice that zerconf download will not work because it is not yet moved… so #stable will download current stable version which is 5.0)
>
> cheers,
> Esteban

The Mac links are like

http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo6.0-mac.zip
http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo6.0-64-mac.zip

while the Linux ones are like

http://pharo.org/STAGE.gnu-linux-installation
http://pharo.org/STAGE.gnu-linux-installation-64

on that page, are you sure this is correct ?

EstebanLM

Re: please test download for Pharo 6.0

> On 31 May 2017, at 16:32, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>> On 31 May 2017, at 16:18, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> we are getting ready for release.
>> please take a minute to review:
>>
>> http://pharo.org/STAGE.download
>>
>> (notice that zerconf download will not work because it is not yet moved… so #stable will download current stable version which is 5.0)
>>
>> cheers,
>> Esteban
>
> The Mac links are like
>
> http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo6.0-mac.zip
> http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo6.0-64-mac.zip
>
> while the Linux ones are like
>
> http://pharo.org/STAGE.gnu-linux-installation
> http://pharo.org/STAGE.gnu-linux-installation-64
>
> on that page, are you sure this is correct ?

yes because they point to another page, not to a file (it has been always like that, btw)

Esteban

>
>

abergel

Re: please test download for Pharo 6.0

In reply to this post by EstebanLM

Hi Esteban,

Thanks for pushing this!

I tried the script:

/tmp> curl get.pharo.org/64 | bash

% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current

Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed

100 232 100 232 0 0 538 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 539

bash: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'

bash: line 1: `<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">'

/tmp>

I got an error

Alexandre

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On May 31, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello,

we are getting ready for release.
please take a minute to review:

http://pharo.org/STAGE.download

(notice that zerconf download will not work because it is not yet moved… so #stable will download current stable version which is 5.0)

cheers,
Esteban

EstebanLM

Re: please test download for Pharo 6.0

On 31 May 2017, at 16:40, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Esteban,

Thanks for pushing this!

I tried the script:
/tmp> curl get.pharo.org/64 | bash
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
100 232 100 232 0 0 538 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 539
bash: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
bash: line 1: `<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">'
/tmp>

I got an error

I said zeroconf will not work yet (is not yet moved) ;)

Esteban

Alexandre

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On May 31, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello,

we are getting ready for release.
please take a minute to review:

http://pharo.org/STAGE.download

(notice that zerconf download will not work because it is not yet moved… so #stable will download current stable version which is 5.0)

cheers,
Esteban

abergel

Re: please test download for Pharo 6.0

Oh.. and when I am using the command line, I use ZeroConf. I did not know this.

Everything seems to be fine.

Alexandre

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On May 31, 2017, at 10:51 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 31 May 2017, at 16:40, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Esteban,

Thanks for pushing this!

I tried the script:
/tmp> curl get.pharo.org/64 | bash
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
100 232 100 232 0 0 538 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 539
bash: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
bash: line 1: `<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">'
/tmp>

I got an error

I said zeroconf will not work yet (is not yet moved) ;)

Esteban

Alexandre

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On May 31, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hello,

we are getting ready for release.
please take a minute to review:

http://pharo.org/STAGE.download

(notice that zerconf download will not work because it is not yet moved… so #stable will download current stable version which is 5.0)

cheers,
Esteban

Sven Van Caekenberghe-2

Re: please test download for Pharo 6.0

In reply to this post by EstebanLM

OK, I quickly tested the Mac 32 and 64 bit versions, installing some code, running unit tests, clicking around. Both are working perfectly.

The Pharo Welcome window with the clickable coloured links and the tabs is particularly nice.

The need to move to /Applications is just one thing, you also have to allow the app to actually run (with my settings, by right clicking on it, and giving permission; but even then it stops the first time and only runs the second time; no big deal for me but it might be confusing for others).

Great work, thank you all !

Sven

> On 31 May 2017, at 16:34, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>> On 31 May 2017, at 16:32, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 31 May 2017, at 16:18, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> we are getting ready for release.
>>> please take a minute to review:
>>>
>>> http://pharo.org/STAGE.download
>>>
>>> (notice that zerconf download will not work because it is not yet moved… so #stable will download current stable version which is 5.0)
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Esteban
>>
>> The Mac links are like
>>
>> http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo6.0-mac.zip
>> http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo6.0-64-mac.zip
>>
>> while the Linux ones are like
>>
>> http://pharo.org/STAGE.gnu-linux-installation
>> http://pharo.org/STAGE.gnu-linux-installation-64
>>
>> on that page, are you sure this is correct ?
>
> yes because they point to another page, not to a file (it has been always like that, btw)
>
> Esteban
>
>>
>>
>
>

Peter Uhnak

Re: please test download for Pharo 6.0

In reply to this post by EstebanLM

I find the Windows distribution a bit chaotic as all the files (vm, vm libs, image, sources) are in the same folder. Maybe there were issues with using shortcuts? Because then launching the image will also create pharo-local in the folder (and any other file that image writes to imageDirectory), so it could be more chaos for a new user.

The linux distro contains sources twice
1) pharo6.0/shared/PharoV60.sources
2) pharo6.0/bin/PharoV60.sources

Peter

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 04:18:19PM +0200, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:

> Hello,
>
> we are getting ready for release.
> please take a minute to review:
>
> http://pharo.org/STAGE.download <http://pharo.org/STAGE.download>
>
> (notice that zerconf download will not work because it is not yet moved… so #stable will download current stable version which is 5.0)
>
> cheers,
> Esteban

EstebanLM

Re: please test download for Pharo 6.0

> On 31 May 2017, at 17:46, Peter Uhnak <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I find the Windows distribution a bit chaotic as all the files (vm, vm libs, image, sources) are in the same folder. Maybe there were issues with using shortcuts? Because then launching the image will also create pharo-local in the folder (and any other file that image writes to imageDirectory), so it could be more chaos for a new user.

yes, it has been like that since some time and we need to change it… but not now for release :)

>
> The linux distro contains sources twice
> 1) pharo6.0/shared/PharoV60.sources
> 2) pharo6.0/bin/PharoV60.sources

yeah, that’s also a problem from one-click days… maybe I can fix that/

Esteban

>
> Peter
>
>
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 04:18:19PM +0200, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> we are getting ready for release.
>> please take a minute to review:
>>
>> http://pharo.org/STAGE.download <http://pharo.org/STAGE.download>
>>
>> (notice that zerconf download will not work because it is not yet moved… so #stable will download current stable version which is 5.0)
>>
>> cheers,
>> Esteban
>

Volkert

Re: please test download for Pharo 6.0

Downloaded Linux 64 Bit.
Installed Roassal.
Run Examples.
VM crashed :-(

BW, Volkert

Am 31.05.2017 um 17:59 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano:

On 31 May 2017, at 17:46, Peter Uhnak [hidden email] wrote:

I find the Windows distribution a bit chaotic as all the files (vm, vm libs, image, sources) are in the same folder. Maybe there were issues with using shortcuts? Because then launching the image will also create pharo-local in the folder (and any other file that image writes to imageDirectory), so it could be more chaos for a new user.

yes, it has been like that since some time and we need to change it… but not now for release :)

The linux distro contains sources twice
1) pharo6.0/shared/PharoV60.sources
2) pharo6.0/bin/PharoV60.sources

yeah, that’s also a problem from one-click days… maybe I can fix that/

Esteban

Peter


On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 04:18:19PM +0200, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:

Hello, 

we are getting ready for release.
please take a minute to review:

http://pharo.org/STAGE.download <http://pharo.org/STAGE.download>

(notice that zerconf download will not work because it is not yet moved… so #stable will download current stable version which is 5.0)

cheers,
Esteban

abergel

Re: please test download for Pharo 6.0

Hi Volkert,

Roassal does not work on Pharo 64-bits. The issue here is Athens.

When Pharo 6 will be released, we will evaluate the options to make Roassal run on 64 bits. The option I see, is using Pompeii, the backend by Ronie that uses directly OpenGL. This works well on Pharo 64 bits.

Someone see another option?

Cheers,

Alexandre

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On May 31, 2017, at 12:24 PM, volkert <[hidden email]> wrote:

Downloaded Linux 64 Bit.
Installed Roassal.
Run Examples.
VM crashed :-(

BW, Volkert

Am 31.05.2017 um 17:59 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano:

On 31 May 2017, at 17:46, Peter Uhnak [hidden email] wrote:

I find the Windows distribution a bit chaotic as all the files (vm, vm libs, image, sources) are in the same folder. Maybe there were issues with using shortcuts? Because then launching the image will also create pharo-local in the folder (and any other file that image writes to imageDirectory), so it could be more chaos for a new user.

yes, it has been like that since some time and we need to change it… but not now for release :)

The linux distro contains sources twice
1) pharo6.0/shared/PharoV60.sources
2) pharo6.0/bin/PharoV60.sources

yeah, that’s also a problem from one-click days… maybe I can fix that/

Esteban

Peter


On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 04:18:19PM +0200, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:

Hello, 

we are getting ready for release.
please take a minute to review:

http://pharo.org/STAGE.download <http://pharo.org/STAGE.download>

(notice that zerconf download will not work because it is not yet moved… so #stable will download current stable version which is 5.0)

cheers,
Esteban

Blondeau Vincent

Re: please test download for Pharo 6.0

In reply to this post by Volkert

My review:

- For Pharo x64: Version 6.0 for OS X, GNU/Linux, and Windows -> Version 6.0 for OS X and GNU/Linux.

- The VM and .sources are the same as for Pharo5. -> The VM and .sources are the same as for Pharo 6.

- http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest.zip -> dead link (but this is expected ;))

Thanks Esteban!

Vincent

De : Pharo-dev [mailto:[hidden email]] De la part de volkert
Envoyé : mercredi 31 mai 2017 18:25
À : [hidden email]
Objet : Re: [Pharo-dev] please test download for Pharo 6.0

Downloaded Linux 64 Bit.
Installed Roassal.
Run Examples.
VM crashed :-(

BW, Volkert

Am 31.05.2017 um 17:59 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano:

On 31 May 2017, at 17:46, Peter Uhnak [hidden email] wrote:

I find the Windows distribution a bit chaotic as all the files (vm, vm libs, image, sources) are in the same folder. Maybe there were issues with using shortcuts? Because then launching the image will also create pharo-local in the folder (and any other file that image writes to imageDirectory), so it could be more chaos for a new user.

yes, it has been like that since some time and we need to change it… but not now for release :)

The linux distro contains sources twice

1) pharo6.0/shared/PharoV60.sources

2) pharo6.0/bin/PharoV60.sources

yeah, that’s also a problem from one-click days… maybe I can fix that/

Esteban

Peter

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 04:18:19PM +0200, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:

Hello,

we are getting ready for release.

please take a minute to review:

http://pharo.org/STAGE.download <http://pharo.org/STAGE.download>

(notice that zerconf download will not work because it is not yet moved… so #stable will download current stable version which is 5.0)

cheers,

Esteban

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EstebanLM

Re: please test download for Pharo 6.0

In reply to this post by abergel

But I tested Roassal (and Athens) in 64bits and they were working.

What changed?

On 31 May 2017, at 18:33, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Volkert,

Roassal does not work on Pharo 64-bits. The issue here is Athens.

When Pharo 6 will be released, we will evaluate the options to make Roassal run on 64 bits. The option I see, is using Pompeii, the backend by Ronie that uses directly OpenGL. This works well on Pharo 64 bits.

Someone see another option?

Cheers,
Alexandre
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On May 31, 2017, at 12:24 PM, volkert <[hidden email]> wrote:
Downloaded Linux 64 Bit.

Installed Roassal.

Run Examples.

VM crashed :-(

BW, Volkert

Am 31.05.2017 um 17:59 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano:
On 31 May 2017, at 17:46, Peter Uhnak [hidden email] wrote:

I find the Windows distribution a bit chaotic as all the files (vm, vm libs, image, sources) are in the same folder. Maybe there were issues with using shortcuts? Because then launching the image will also create pharo-local in the folder (and any other file that image writes to imageDirectory), so it could be more chaos for a new user.
yes, it has been like that since some time and we need to change it… but not now for release :)
The linux distro contains sources twice
1) pharo6.0/shared/PharoV60.sources
2) pharo6.0/bin/PharoV60.sources
yeah, that’s also a problem from one-click days… maybe I can fix that/

Esteban
Peter


On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 04:18:19PM +0200, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
Hello, 

we are getting ready for release.
please take a minute to review:

http://pharo.org/STAGE.download <http://pharo.org/STAGE.download>

(notice that zerconf download will not work because it is not yet moved… so #stable will download current stable version which is 5.0)

cheers,
Esteban

Esteban A. Maringolo

Re: please test download for Pharo 6.0

I downloaded Windows (32 bit only). Played around and had no visible
issues so I ran the tests and got some errors and failures (I don't
know whether they're expected):

14425 run, 14342 passes, 29 skipped, 57 expected failures, 17
failures, 9 errors, 0 unexpected passes
Failures:
MCSnapshotBrowserTest>>#testNoSelection
MCWorkingCopyTest>>#testSimpleMerge
MCStWriterTest>>#testInitializerDefinition
MetacelloRepositorySqueakCommonTestCase>>#testDirectoryRepository
MetacelloRepositorySqueakCommonTestCase>>#testAsRepositorySpecFor
MCSnapshotTest>>#testCreation
MCWorkingCopyTest>>#testOptimizedLoad
MCSnapshotBrowserTest>>#testClassSelected
ReleaseTest>>#testMethodsWithUnboundGlobals
MCSnapshotBrowserTest>>#testCategorySelected
MCWorkingCopyTest>>#testRepeatedMerge
MCSnapshotBrowserTest>>#testClassSideClassSelected
MCPatchTest>>#testPatchContents
ZnClientTests>>#testIfFailNotFound
MCWorkingCopyTest>>#testSelectiveBackport
MCWorkingCopyTest>>#testSnapshotAndLoad
GLMRubricTextMorphicTest>>#testPastingUpdatesTextPort

Errors:
MCPackageTest>>#testUnloadWithAdditionalTracking
MCSnapshotBrowserTest>>#testMethodIsCleared
MCSnapshotBrowserTest>>#testMethodSelected
MCSnapshotBrowserTest>>#testProtocolIsCleared
MCSnapshotBrowserTest>>#testProtocolSelected
MCStWriterTest>>#testClassMethodDefinition
MCStWriterTest>>#testMethodDefinition
MCWorkingCopyTest>>#testBackport
MCFileInTest>>#testStWriter

Best regards!
Esteban A. Maringolo

2017-05-31 13:39 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:

> But I tested Roassal (and Athens) in 64bits and they were working.
> What changed?
>
> On 31 May 2017, at 18:33, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Volkert,
>
> Roassal does not work on Pharo 64-bits. The issue here is Athens.
>
> When Pharo 6 will be released, we will evaluate the options to make Roassal
> run on 64 bits. The option I see, is using Pompeii, the backend by Ronie
> that uses directly OpenGL. This works well on Pharo 64 bits.
>
> Someone see another option?
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
> --
> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>
>
>
> On May 31, 2017, at 12:24 PM, volkert <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Downloaded Linux 64 Bit.
> Installed Roassal.
> Run Examples.
> VM crashed :-(
>
> BW, Volkert
>
> Am 31.05.2017 um 17:59 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano:
>
> On 31 May 2017, at 17:46, Peter Uhnak <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I find the Windows distribution a bit chaotic as all the files (vm, vm libs,
> image, sources) are in the same folder. Maybe there were issues with using
> shortcuts? Because then launching the image will also create pharo-local in
> the folder (and any other file that image writes to imageDirectory), so it
> could be more chaos for a new user.
>
> yes, it has been like that since some time and we need to change it… but not
> now for release :)
>
> The linux distro contains sources twice
> 1) pharo6.0/shared/PharoV60.sources
> 2) pharo6.0/bin/PharoV60.sources
>
> yeah, that’s also a problem from one-click days… maybe I can fix that/
>
> Esteban
>
> Peter
>
>
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 04:18:19PM +0200, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> we are getting ready for release.
> please take a minute to review:
>
> http://pharo.org/STAGE.download <http://pharo.org/STAGE.download>
>
> (notice that zerconf download will not work because it is not yet moved… so
> #stable will download current stable version which is 5.0)
>
> cheers,
> Esteban
>
>
>

Torsten Bergmann

Re: please test download for Pharo 6.0

In reply to this post by EstebanLM

Hi Esteban,

I tried on a fresh Windows setup. What I tried:

- general image browsing, mousing around

- loading OS-Windows and run all my test to verify UFFI works fine

- loading Roassal and checked some examples

- switching FreeType on and using some non-standard TTF fonts
- retrieved contents from an HTTPS location using ZnEasy to verify SSL connections
- loaded and verified some packages like Teapot, WebBrowser, ...

anything worked fine.

But using the console version

PharoConsole.exe Pharo60.image --list

or other command line options did not work in a shell. It opens the UI always instead of printing

something to stdout. Dont know if command line/stdout is now already supposed to work in Pharo 6
(if not the PharoConsole.exe would not make sense to include yet).

Also when git is not installed and one creates a repository it gives an error due to directory
creation - but this is a specific issue for Iceberg.

Thanks
T.

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2017 um 16:18 Uhr
Von: "Esteban Lorenzano" <[hidden email]>
An: "Pharo Development List" <[hidden email]>
Betreff: [Pharo-dev] please test download for Pharo 6.0

Hello,

we are getting ready for release.

please take a minute to review:

http://pharo.org/STAGE.download

(notice that zerconf download will not work because it is not yet moved… so #stable will download current stable version which is 5.0)

cheers,

Esteban

EstebanLM

Re: please test download for Pharo 6.0

In reply to this post by EstebanLM

On 31 May 2017, at 18:39, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

But I tested Roassal (and Athens) in 64bits and they were working.
What changed?

I see that it is crashing.

But it was working, I swear it :)

So I need to dig what changed to make it crash now :(

Esteban

On 31 May 2017, at 18:33, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Volkert,

Roassal does not work on Pharo 64-bits. The issue here is Athens.

When Pharo 6 will be released, we will evaluate the options to make Roassal run on 64 bits. The option I see, is using Pompeii, the backend by Ronie that uses directly OpenGL. This works well on Pharo 64 bits.

Someone see another option?

Cheers,
Alexandre
--
_,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
On May 31, 2017, at 12:24 PM, volkert <[hidden email]> wrote:
Downloaded Linux 64 Bit.

Installed Roassal.

Run Examples.

VM crashed :-(

BW, Volkert

Am 31.05.2017 um 17:59 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano:
On 31 May 2017, at 17:46, Peter Uhnak [hidden email] wrote:

I find the Windows distribution a bit chaotic as all the files (vm, vm libs, image, sources) are in the same folder. Maybe there were issues with using shortcuts? Because then launching the image will also create pharo-local in the folder (and any other file that image writes to imageDirectory), so it could be more chaos for a new user.
yes, it has been like that since some time and we need to change it… but not now for release :)
The linux distro contains sources twice
1) pharo6.0/shared/PharoV60.sources
2) pharo6.0/bin/PharoV60.sources
yeah, that’s also a problem from one-click days… maybe I can fix that/

Esteban
Peter


On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 04:18:19PM +0200, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
Hello, 

we are getting ready for release.
please take a minute to review:

http://pharo.org/STAGE.download <http://pharo.org/STAGE.download>

(notice that zerconf download will not work because it is not yet moved… so #stable will download current stable version which is 5.0)

cheers,
Esteban

abergel

Re: please test download for Pharo 6.0

I was never aware that Athens was working on 64 bits.

Yes, it is crashing...

Alexandre

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On May 31, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
On 31 May 2017, at 18:39, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

But I tested Roassal (and Athens) in 64bits and they were working.
What changed?

I see that it is crashing.
But it was working, I swear it :)

So I need to dig what changed to make it crash now :(

Esteban
On 31 May 2017, at 18:33, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Volkert,

Roassal does not work on Pharo 64-bits. The issue here is Athens.

When Pharo 6 will be released, we will evaluate the options to make Roassal run on 64 bits. The option I see, is using Pompeii, the backend by Ronie that uses directly OpenGL. This works well on Pharo 64 bits.

Someone see another option?

Cheers,
Alexandre
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On May 31, 2017, at 12:24 PM, volkert <[hidden email]> wrote:
Downloaded Linux 64 Bit.

Installed Roassal.

Run Examples.

VM crashed :-(

BW, Volkert

Am 31.05.2017 um 17:59 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano:
On 31 May 2017, at 17:46, Peter Uhnak [hidden email] wrote:

I find the Windows distribution a bit chaotic as all the files (vm, vm libs, image, sources) are in the same folder. Maybe there were issues with using shortcuts? Because then launching the image will also create pharo-local in the folder (and any other file that image writes to imageDirectory), so it could be more chaos for a new user.
yes, it has been like that since some time and we need to change it… but not now for release :)
The linux distro contains sources twice
1) pharo6.0/shared/PharoV60.sources
2) pharo6.0/bin/PharoV60.sources
yeah, that’s also a problem from one-click days… maybe I can fix that/

Esteban
Peter


On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 04:18:19PM +0200, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
Hello, 

we are getting ready for release.
please take a minute to review:

http://pharo.org/STAGE.download <http://pharo.org/STAGE.download>

(notice that zerconf download will not work because it is not yet moved… so #stable will download current stable version which is 5.0)

cheers,
Esteban

philippeback

Re: please test download for Pharo 6.0

In reply to this post by Torsten Bergmann

The default pharo-ui scripts are running PharoConsole.exe which is annoying because there is no filedialog allowing one to select an image. This is disrupting expectations.

Furthermore PharoConsole is not really a console, it displays a dialog box instead of printing the usage to the console.

Phil

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Esteban,

I tried on a fresh Windows setup. What I tried:

- general image browsing, mousing around

- loading OS-Windows and run all my test to verify UFFI works fine

- loading Roassal and checked some examples

- switching FreeType on and using some non-standard TTF fonts
- retrieved contents from an HTTPS location using ZnEasy to verify SSL connections
- loaded and verified some packages like Teapot, WebBrowser, ...

anything worked fine.

But using the console version

PharoConsole.exe Pharo60.image --list

or other command line options did not work in a shell. It opens the UI always instead of printing

something to stdout. Dont know if command line/stdout is now already supposed to work in Pharo 6
(if not the PharoConsole.exe would not make sense to include yet).

Also when git is not installed and one creates a repository it gives an error due to directory
creation - but this is a specific issue for Iceberg.

Thanks
T.

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2017 um 16:18 Uhr
Von: "Esteban Lorenzano" <[hidden email]>
An: "Pharo Development List" <[hidden email]>
Betreff: [Pharo-dev] please test download for Pharo 6.0

Hello,

we are getting ready for release.

please take a minute to review:

http://pharo.org/STAGE.download

(notice that zerconf download will not work because it is not yet moved… so #stable will download current stable version which is 5.0)

cheers,

Esteban

abergel

Re: please test download for Pharo 6.0

In reply to this post by Torsten Bergmann

Have you tried Pharo 32 or 64 bits?

Alexandre

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On May 31, 2017, at 1:56 PM, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Esteban,

I tried on a fresh Windows setup. What I tried:

- general image browsing, mousing around

- loading OS-Windows and run all my test to verify UFFI works fine

- loading Roassal and checked some examples

- switching FreeType on and using some non-standard TTF fonts
- retrieved contents from an HTTPS location using ZnEasy to verify SSL connections
- loaded and verified some packages like Teapot, WebBrowser, ...

anything worked fine.

But using the console version

PharoConsole.exe Pharo60.image --list

or other command line options did not work in a shell. It opens the UI always instead of printing

something to stdout. Dont know if command line/stdout is now already supposed to work in Pharo 6
(if not the PharoConsole.exe would not make sense to include yet).

Also when git is not installed and one creates a repository it gives an error due to directory
creation - but this is a specific issue for Iceberg.

Thanks
T.

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2017 um 16:18 Uhr
Von: "Esteban Lorenzano" <[hidden email]>
An: "Pharo Development List" <[hidden email]>
Betreff: [Pharo-dev] please test download for Pharo 6.0

Hello,

we are getting ready for release.

please take a minute to review:

http://pharo.org/STAGE.download

(notice that zerconf download will not work because it is not yet moved… so #stable will download current stable version which is 5.0)

cheers,

Esteban

Torsten Bergmann

Re: please test download for Pharo 6.0

Hi Alexandre,

as I wrote: Windows.
So 32 bits, there is no 64 bits Pharo VM for Windows yet (maybe with Pharo 7).

BTW: thanks for the tech-talk. Was to late to join but I liked the video and PDF.

Thanks
T.

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2017 um 23:19 Uhr
Von: "Alexandre Bergel" <[hidden email]>
An: "Pharo Development List" <[hidden email]>
Betreff: Re: [Pharo-dev] please test download for Pharo 6.0

Have you tried Pharo 32 or 64 bits?

Alexandre
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On May 31, 2017, at 1:56 PM, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email][mailto:[hidden email]]> wrote:

Hi Esteban,

I tried on a fresh Windows setup. What I tried:
- general image browsing, mousing around
- loading OS-Windows and run all my test to verify UFFI works fine
- loading Roassal and checked some examples
- switching FreeType on and using some non-standard TTF fonts
- retrieved contents from an HTTPS location using ZnEasy to verify SSL connections
- loaded and verified some packages like Teapot, WebBrowser, ...

anything worked fine.

But using the console version

PharoConsole.exe Pharo60.image --list

or other command line options did not work in a shell. It opens the UI always instead of printing
something to stdout. Dont know if command line/stdout is now already supposed to work in Pharo 6
(if not the PharoConsole.exe would not make sense to include yet).

Also when git is not installed and one creates a repository it gives an error due to directory
creation - but this is a specific issue for Iceberg.

Thanks
T.

Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2017 um 16:18 Uhr
Von: "Esteban Lorenzano" <[hidden email][mailto:[hidden email]]>
An: "Pharo Development List" <[hidden email][mailto:[hidden email]]>
Betreff: [Pharo-dev] please test download for Pharo 6.0

Hello,

we are getting ready for release.
please take a minute to review:

http://pharo.org/STAGE.download[http://pharo.org/STAGE.download]

(notice that zerconf download will not work because it is not yet moved… so #stable will download current stable version which is 5.0)

cheers,
Esteban

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