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Fabrizio Perin
Hi,
i got a strange error from the debugger: when the debug window appear (in my case because a test fail) i click on the method that i want to visualize and and another debug window appear saying "MessageNotUnderstood: TextMorphEditor>>blinkParen". Attached the log.

Than i figure out that in the last build of Moose you cannot even open a workspace because you get the same error. Seems something starting from shout but i'm not sure.

Cheers,

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Re: problem with the debugger

Lukas Renggli
Yeah, I have the same problem.

Glamour seems to break Pharo 1.1.1.

You can add #blinkParen as an empty method, but other stuff will still
be broken.

Lukas

On 1 December 2010 10:01, Fabrizio Perin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
> i got a strange error from the debugger: when the debug window appear (in my case because a test fail) i click on the method that i want to visualize and and another debug window appear saying "MessageNotUnderstood: TextMorphEditor>>blinkParen". Attached the log.
>
> Than i figure out that in the last build of Moose you cannot even open a workspace because you get the same error. Seems something starting from shout but i'm not sure.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fabrizio
>
>
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Re: problem with the debugger

Fabrizio Perin
I also notice that when you try to open a workspace in the transcript window appear for 6 times "PluggableShoutMorph>>setText: (styler is Undeclared)"

Fabrizio

On 1 Dec 2010, at 14:11, Lukas Renggli wrote:

> Yeah, I have the same problem.
>
> Glamour seems to break Pharo 1.1.1.
>
> You can add #blinkParen as an empty method, but other stuff will still
> be broken.
>
> Lukas
>
> On 1 December 2010 10:01, Fabrizio Perin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> i got a strange error from the debugger: when the debug window appear (in my case because a test fail) i click on the method that i want to visualize and and another debug window appear saying "MessageNotUnderstood: TextMorphEditor>>blinkParen". Attached the log.
>>
>> Than i figure out that in the last build of Moose you cannot even open a workspace because you get the same error. Seems something starting from shout but i'm not sure.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Fabrizio
>>
>>
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Re: problem with the debugger

Lukas Renggli
Yes, this is related to the text editor changes in Pharo 1.2.

This is a pity because I have a PetitParser tutorial today and I
cannot use PPBrowser because it completely breaks the image :-(

Lukas

On 1 December 2010 10:16, Fabrizio Perin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I also notice that when you try to open a workspace in the transcript window appear for 6 times "PluggableShoutMorph>>setText: (styler is Undeclared)"
>
> Fabrizio
>
> On 1 Dec 2010, at 14:11, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I have the same problem.
>>
>> Glamour seems to break Pharo 1.1.1.
>>
>> You can add #blinkParen as an empty method, but other stuff will still
>> be broken.
>>
>> Lukas
>>
>> On 1 December 2010 10:01, Fabrizio Perin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> i got a strange error from the debugger: when the debug window appear (in my case because a test fail) i click on the method that i want to visualize and and another debug window appear saying "MessageNotUnderstood: TextMorphEditor>>blinkParen". Attached the log.
>>>
>>> Than i figure out that in the last build of Moose you cannot even open a workspace because you get the same error. Seems something starting from shout but i'm not sure.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Fabrizio
>>>
>>>
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Re: problem with the debugger

jfabry

Argh :-( Can you use the 4.1 release of Moose? I can place an image online locally for fast access of the participants ...

On 01 Dec 2010, at 10:46, Lukas Renggli wrote:

> Yes, this is related to the text editor changes in Pharo 1.2.
>
> This is a pity because I have a PetitParser tutorial today and I
> cannot use PPBrowser because it completely breaks the image :-(
>
> Lukas
>
> On 1 December 2010 10:16, Fabrizio Perin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> I also notice that when you try to open a workspace in the transcript window appear for 6 times "PluggableShoutMorph>>setText: (styler is Undeclared)"
>>
>> Fabrizio
>>
>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 14:11, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I have the same problem.
>>>
>>> Glamour seems to break Pharo 1.1.1.
>>>
>>> You can add #blinkParen as an empty method, but other stuff will still
>>> be broken.
>>>
>>> Lukas
>>>
>>> On 1 December 2010 10:01, Fabrizio Perin <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> i got a strange error from the debugger: when the debug window appear (in my case because a test fail) i click on the method that i want to visualize and and another debug window appear saying "MessageNotUnderstood: TextMorphEditor>>blinkParen". Attached the log.
>>>>
>>>> Than i figure out that in the last build of Moose you cannot even open a workspace because you get the same error. Seems something starting from shout but i'm not sure.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Fabrizio
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: problem with the debugger

Alexandre Bergel
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This is because of Shout. A wrong version of Shout is loaded.

Cheers,
Alexandre


On 1 Dec 2010, at 10:01, Fabrizio Perin wrote:

> Hi,
> i got a strange error from the debugger: when the debug window appear (in my case because a test fail) i click on the method that i want to visualize and and another debug window appear saying "MessageNotUnderstood: TextMorphEditor>>blinkParen". Attached the log.
>
> Than i figure out that in the last build of Moose you cannot even open a workspace because you get the same error. Seems something starting from shout but i'm not sure.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fabrizio
>
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Re: problem with the debugger

Tudor Girba
Soon, Alex will fix the situation :)

In the meantime, indeed, I am using Pharo 1.2 for the latest default:
http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev-on-pharo-1.2/

Cheers,
Doru


On 1 Dec 2010, at 21:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:

> This is because of Shout. A wrong version of Shout is loaded.
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
>
> On 1 Dec 2010, at 10:01, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> i got a strange error from the debugger: when the debug window appear (in my case because a test fail) i click on the method that i want to visualize and and another debug window appear saying "MessageNotUnderstood: TextMorphEditor>>blinkParen". Attached the log.
>>
>> Than i figure out that in the last build of Moose you cannot even open a workspace because you get the same error. Seems something starting from shout but i'm not sure.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Fabrizio
>>
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Re: problem with the debugger

Alexandre Bergel
Yes, I am working on it.
Thanks to Dale's tools I've already found some bug in the ConfigurationOfMoose
For example, 4.0-baseline refers to version 1.0-beta.1 of PetitParser, which does not exist.
        spec project: 'PetitParser for Moose' with: [
                                spec
                                        className: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser';
                                        file: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser';
                                        version: '1.0-beta.1';
                                        repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/Moose' ].

Cheers,
Alexandre


On 1 Dec 2010, at 17:40, Tudor Girba wrote:

> Soon, Alex will fix the situation :)
>
> In the meantime, indeed, I am using Pharo 1.2 for the latest default:
> http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev-on-pharo-1.2/
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
> On 1 Dec 2010, at 21:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>
>> This is because of Shout. A wrong version of Shout is loaded.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 10:01, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> i got a strange error from the debugger: when the debug window appear (in my case because a test fail) i click on the method that i want to visualize and and another debug window appear saying "MessageNotUnderstood: TextMorphEditor>>blinkParen". Attached the log.
>>>
>>> Than i figure out that in the last build of Moose you cannot even open a workspace because you get the same error. Seems something starting from shout but i'm not sure.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Fabrizio
>>>
>>> <PharoDebug.log>_______________________________________________
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Re: problem with the debugger

hernanmd
Hi list,

I'm trying to install Moose this way in Pharo1.1rc3 #11406 :

Gofer new
       squeaksource: 'Moose';
       package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
       load.
(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadRelease41

resulting in a "MetacelloProjectSpecLoadError: No version found for
'1.0' of ConfigurationOfPetitParser".

I'm fine waiting for a fix but I wonder what the
ConfigurationOfPetitParser does if I have already installed a
(possibly newer) version of PetitParser? And in the case of overriding
the installed version, is there a way to keep my current installed
version?

Cheers,

2010/12/1 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>:

> Yes, I am working on it.
> Thanks to Dale's tools I've already found some bug in the ConfigurationOfMoose
> For example, 4.0-baseline refers to version 1.0-beta.1 of PetitParser, which does not exist.
>        spec project: 'PetitParser for Moose' with: [
>                                spec
>                                        className: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser';
>                                        file: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser';
>                                        version: '1.0-beta.1';
>                                        repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/Moose' ].
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
>
> On 1 Dec 2010, at 17:40, Tudor Girba wrote:
>
>> Soon, Alex will fix the situation :)
>>
>> In the meantime, indeed, I am using Pharo 1.2 for the latest default:
>> http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev-on-pharo-1.2/
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Doru
>>
>>
>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 21:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>
>>> This is because of Shout. A wrong version of Shout is loaded.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 10:01, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> i got a strange error from the debugger: when the debug window appear (in my case because a test fail) i click on the method that i want to visualize and and another debug window appear saying "MessageNotUnderstood: TextMorphEditor>>blinkParen". Attached the log.
>>>>
>>>> Than i figure out that in the last build of Moose you cannot even open a workspace because you get the same error. Seems something starting from shout but i'm not sure.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Fabrizio
>>>>
>>>> <PharoDebug.log>_______________________________________________
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>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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Re: problem with the debugger

Alexandre Bergel
I am currently working on Version 4.2, which is Pharo 1.1.1 compatible.
Some dependencies are missing. I waiting for the DSM-Mal crew to give me some hint...

Cheers,
Alexandre

On 3 Dec 2010, at 12:54, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:

> Hi list,
>
> I'm trying to install Moose this way in Pharo1.1rc3 #11406 :
>
> Gofer new
>       squeaksource: 'Moose';
>       package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
>       load.
> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadRelease41
>
> resulting in a "MetacelloProjectSpecLoadError: No version found for
> '1.0' of ConfigurationOfPetitParser".
>
> I'm fine waiting for a fix but I wonder what the
> ConfigurationOfPetitParser does if I have already installed a
> (possibly newer) version of PetitParser? And in the case of overriding
> the installed version, is there a way to keep my current installed
> version?
>
> Cheers,
>
> 2010/12/1 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>:
>> Yes, I am working on it.
>> Thanks to Dale's tools I've already found some bug in the ConfigurationOfMoose
>> For example, 4.0-baseline refers to version 1.0-beta.1 of PetitParser, which does not exist.
>>        spec project: 'PetitParser for Moose' with: [
>>                                spec
>>                                        className: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser';
>>                                        file: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser';
>>                                        version: '1.0-beta.1';
>>                                        repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/Moose' ].
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 17:40, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>
>>> Soon, Alex will fix the situation :)
>>>
>>> In the meantime, indeed, I am using Pharo 1.2 for the latest default:
>>> http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev-on-pharo-1.2/
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 21:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is because of Shout. A wrong version of Shout is loaded.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Alexandre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 10:01, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> i got a strange error from the debugger: when the debug window appear (in my case because a test fail) i click on the method that i want to visualize and and another debug window appear saying "MessageNotUnderstood: TextMorphEditor>>blinkParen". Attached the log.
>>>>>
>>>>> Than i figure out that in the last build of Moose you cannot even open a workspace because you get the same error. Seems something starting from shout but i'm not sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Fabrizio
>>>>>
>>>>> <PharoDebug.log>_______________________________________________
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>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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Re: problem with the debugger

hernanmd
Hi Alex,

From which version is considered Pharo 1.1.1 compatible? (About system
reports something like Pharo1.1rc3 #11406)

I'm starting from the 4.1 release as suggested by Johan Fabry in a
mail above, because with the 4.2 release I have experimented the same
problem as Fabrizio Perin, the blinkParen error.
Cheers,

2010/12/3 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>:

> I am currently working on Version 4.2, which is Pharo 1.1.1 compatible.
> Some dependencies are missing. I waiting for the DSM-Mal crew to give me some hint...
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
> On 3 Dec 2010, at 12:54, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I'm trying to install Moose this way in Pharo1.1rc3 #11406 :
>>
>> Gofer new
>>       squeaksource: 'Moose';
>>       package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
>>       load.
>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadRelease41
>>
>> resulting in a "MetacelloProjectSpecLoadError: No version found for
>> '1.0' of ConfigurationOfPetitParser".
>>
>> I'm fine waiting for a fix but I wonder what the
>> ConfigurationOfPetitParser does if I have already installed a
>> (possibly newer) version of PetitParser? And in the case of overriding
>> the installed version, is there a way to keep my current installed
>> version?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> 2010/12/1 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>:
>>> Yes, I am working on it.
>>> Thanks to Dale's tools I've already found some bug in the ConfigurationOfMoose
>>> For example, 4.0-baseline refers to version 1.0-beta.1 of PetitParser, which does not exist.
>>>        spec project: 'PetitParser for Moose' with: [
>>>                                spec
>>>                                        className: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser';
>>>                                        file: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser';
>>>                                        version: '1.0-beta.1';
>>>                                        repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/Moose' ].
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 17:40, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>
>>>> Soon, Alex will fix the situation :)
>>>>
>>>> In the meantime, indeed, I am using Pharo 1.2 for the latest default:
>>>> http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev-on-pharo-1.2/
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Doru
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 21:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is because of Shout. A wrong version of Shout is loaded.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 10:01, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> i got a strange error from the debugger: when the debug window appear (in my case because a test fail) i click on the method that i want to visualize and and another debug window appear saying "MessageNotUnderstood: TextMorphEditor>>blinkParen". Attached the log.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Than i figure out that in the last build of Moose you cannot even open a workspace because you get the same error. Seems something starting from shout but i'm not sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fabrizio
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <PharoDebug.log>_______________________________________________
>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: problem with the debugger

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Hi,

I fixed the 4.2-baseline version of Moose to load in Pharo 1.11.

Gofer new
      squeaksource: 'Moose';
      package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
      load.
(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadRelease42.

At the moment this loads the 4.2-baseline. We need to generate the 4.2 final version. Alex, could you take care of that or tell me how to use the toolbox?

Cheers.
Doru


On 3 Dec 2010, at 16:54, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:

> Hi list,
>
> I'm trying to install Moose this way in Pharo1.1rc3 #11406 :
>
> Gofer new
>       squeaksource: 'Moose';
>       package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
>       load.
> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadRelease41
>
> resulting in a "MetacelloProjectSpecLoadError: No version found for
> '1.0' of ConfigurationOfPetitParser".
>
> I'm fine waiting for a fix but I wonder what the
> ConfigurationOfPetitParser does if I have already installed a
> (possibly newer) version of PetitParser? And in the case of overriding
> the installed version, is there a way to keep my current installed
> version?
>
> Cheers,
>
> 2010/12/1 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>:
>> Yes, I am working on it.
>> Thanks to Dale's tools I've already found some bug in the ConfigurationOfMoose
>> For example, 4.0-baseline refers to version 1.0-beta.1 of PetitParser, which does not exist.
>>        spec project: 'PetitParser for Moose' with: [
>>                                spec
>>                                        className: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser';
>>                                        file: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser';
>>                                        version: '1.0-beta.1';
>>                                        repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/Moose' ].
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 17:40, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>
>>> Soon, Alex will fix the situation :)
>>>
>>> In the meantime, indeed, I am using Pharo 1.2 for the latest default:
>>> http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev-on-pharo-1.2/
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 21:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is because of Shout. A wrong version of Shout is loaded.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Alexandre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 10:01, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> i got a strange error from the debugger: when the debug window appear (in my case because a test fail) i click on the method that i want to visualize and and another debug window appear saying "MessageNotUnderstood: TextMorphEditor>>blinkParen". Attached the log.
>>>>>
>>>>> Than i figure out that in the last build of Moose you cannot even open a workspace because you get the same error. Seems something starting from shout but i'm not sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Fabrizio
>>>>>
>>>>> <PharoDebug.log>_______________________________________________
>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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Re: problem with the debugger

Tudor Girba
I forgot to say that a pre-built image is available here:
http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/

Cheers,
Doru


On 4 Dec 2010, at 13:31, Tudor Girba wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I fixed the 4.2-baseline version of Moose to load in Pharo 1.11.
>
> Gofer new
>      squeaksource: 'Moose';
>      package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
>      load.
> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadRelease42.
>
> At the moment this loads the 4.2-baseline. We need to generate the 4.2 final version. Alex, could you take care of that or tell me how to use the toolbox?
>
> Cheers.
> Doru
>
>
> On 3 Dec 2010, at 16:54, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I'm trying to install Moose this way in Pharo1.1rc3 #11406 :
>>
>> Gofer new
>>      squeaksource: 'Moose';
>>      package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
>>      load.
>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadRelease41
>>
>> resulting in a "MetacelloProjectSpecLoadError: No version found for
>> '1.0' of ConfigurationOfPetitParser".
>>
>> I'm fine waiting for a fix but I wonder what the
>> ConfigurationOfPetitParser does if I have already installed a
>> (possibly newer) version of PetitParser? And in the case of overriding
>> the installed version, is there a way to keep my current installed
>> version?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> 2010/12/1 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>:
>>> Yes, I am working on it.
>>> Thanks to Dale's tools I've already found some bug in the ConfigurationOfMoose
>>> For example, 4.0-baseline refers to version 1.0-beta.1 of PetitParser, which does not exist.
>>>       spec project: 'PetitParser for Moose' with: [
>>>                               spec
>>>                                       className: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser';
>>>                                       file: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser';
>>>                                       version: '1.0-beta.1';
>>>                                       repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/Moose' ].
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 17:40, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>
>>>> Soon, Alex will fix the situation :)
>>>>
>>>> In the meantime, indeed, I am using Pharo 1.2 for the latest default:
>>>> http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev-on-pharo-1.2/
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Doru
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 21:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is because of Shout. A wrong version of Shout is loaded.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 10:01, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> i got a strange error from the debugger: when the debug window appear (in my case because a test fail) i click on the method that i want to visualize and and another debug window appear saying "MessageNotUnderstood: TextMorphEditor>>blinkParen". Attached the log.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Than i figure out that in the last build of Moose you cannot even open a workspace because you get the same error. Seems something starting from shout but i'm not sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fabrizio
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <PharoDebug.log>_______________________________________________
>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> "Be rather willing to give than demanding to get."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
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>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>>
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>> Institute of Veterinary Genetics.
>> National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET).
>> La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina.
>> Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799.
>> Internal: 422
>> Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799.
>>
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Re: problem with the debugger

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This is cool. Thanks Doru.
I still can't figure out exactly what went wrong in what I did.

Cheers,
Alexandre

On 4 Dec 2010, at 09:31, Tudor Girba wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I fixed the 4.2-baseline version of Moose to load in Pharo 1.11.
>
> Gofer new
>      squeaksource: 'Moose';
>      package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
>      load.
> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadRelease42.
>
> At the moment this loads the 4.2-baseline. We need to generate the 4.2 final version. Alex, could you take care of that or tell me how to use the toolbox?
>
> Cheers.
> Doru
>
>
> On 3 Dec 2010, at 16:54, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I'm trying to install Moose this way in Pharo1.1rc3 #11406 :
>>
>> Gofer new
>>      squeaksource: 'Moose';
>>      package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
>>      load.
>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadRelease41
>>
>> resulting in a "MetacelloProjectSpecLoadError: No version found for
>> '1.0' of ConfigurationOfPetitParser".
>>
>> I'm fine waiting for a fix but I wonder what the
>> ConfigurationOfPetitParser does if I have already installed a
>> (possibly newer) version of PetitParser? And in the case of overriding
>> the installed version, is there a way to keep my current installed
>> version?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> 2010/12/1 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>:
>>> Yes, I am working on it.
>>> Thanks to Dale's tools I've already found some bug in the ConfigurationOfMoose
>>> For example, 4.0-baseline refers to version 1.0-beta.1 of PetitParser, which does not exist.
>>>       spec project: 'PetitParser for Moose' with: [
>>>                               spec
>>>                                       className: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser';
>>>                                       file: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser';
>>>                                       version: '1.0-beta.1';
>>>                                       repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/Moose' ].
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 17:40, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>
>>>> Soon, Alex will fix the situation :)
>>>>
>>>> In the meantime, indeed, I am using Pharo 1.2 for the latest default:
>>>> http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev-on-pharo-1.2/
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Doru
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 21:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is because of Shout. A wrong version of Shout is loaded.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 10:01, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> i got a strange error from the debugger: when the debug window appear (in my case because a test fail) i click on the method that i want to visualize and and another debug window appear saying "MessageNotUnderstood: TextMorphEditor>>blinkParen". Attached the log.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Than i figure out that in the last build of Moose you cannot even open a workspace because you get the same error. Seems something starting from shout but i'm not sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fabrizio
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <PharoDebug.log>_______________________________________________
>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
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>>
>>
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>> Institute of Veterinary Genetics.
>> National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET).
>> La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina.
>> Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799.
>> Internal: 422
>> Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799.
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Re: problem with the debugger

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I updated the moose website. This is an important information

http://www.squeaksource.com/Moose.html

Cheers,
Alexandre

On 4 Dec 2010, at 09:31, Tudor Girba wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I fixed the 4.2-baseline version of Moose to load in Pharo 1.11.
>
> Gofer new
>      squeaksource: 'Moose';
>      package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
>      load.
> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadRelease42.
>
> At the moment this loads the 4.2-baseline. We need to generate the 4.2 final version. Alex, could you take care of that or tell me how to use the toolbox?
>
> Cheers.
> Doru
>
>
> On 3 Dec 2010, at 16:54, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I'm trying to install Moose this way in Pharo1.1rc3 #11406 :
>>
>> Gofer new
>>      squeaksource: 'Moose';
>>      package: 'ConfigurationOfMoose';
>>      load.
>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMoose) perform: #loadRelease41
>>
>> resulting in a "MetacelloProjectSpecLoadError: No version found for
>> '1.0' of ConfigurationOfPetitParser".
>>
>> I'm fine waiting for a fix but I wonder what the
>> ConfigurationOfPetitParser does if I have already installed a
>> (possibly newer) version of PetitParser? And in the case of overriding
>> the installed version, is there a way to keep my current installed
>> version?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> 2010/12/1 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>:
>>> Yes, I am working on it.
>>> Thanks to Dale's tools I've already found some bug in the ConfigurationOfMoose
>>> For example, 4.0-baseline refers to version 1.0-beta.1 of PetitParser, which does not exist.
>>>       spec project: 'PetitParser for Moose' with: [
>>>                               spec
>>>                                       className: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser';
>>>                                       file: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser';
>>>                                       version: '1.0-beta.1';
>>>                                       repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/Moose' ].
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 17:40, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>
>>>> Soon, Alex will fix the situation :)
>>>>
>>>> In the meantime, indeed, I am using Pharo 1.2 for the latest default:
>>>> http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev-on-pharo-1.2/
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Doru
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 21:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is because of Shout. A wrong version of Shout is loaded.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Alexandre
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>>>>> On 1 Dec 2010, at 10:01, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
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>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> i got a strange error from the debugger: when the debug window appear (in my case because a test fail) i click on the method that i want to visualize and and another debug window appear saying "MessageNotUnderstood: TextMorphEditor>>blinkParen". Attached the log.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Than i figure out that in the last build of Moose you cannot even open a workspace because you get the same error. Seems something starting from shout but i'm not sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fabrizio
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