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erobles-2

seaside and ui`s

Hi list,
I`m working with Seaside for about a couple of weeks and I think it`s
excellent. I`m wondering if there is an extension to the UIBuilder in
order to build UIs for Seaside.
I have little idea of how UIBuilder works with specs so I inspect it
and debug some particular cases of examples in order to understand
it`s behaviour. After a few tests I realize that UIBuilder and Specs
are mostly design for traditional Widgets which understand
>>displayOn:. Does anybody question itself to do a refactoring to
UIBuilder and Spec implementation. It would be useful to decouple the
abstractions of buttons, input fields, checks, etc from their
implementations in a particular framework such as MVC, Seaside,
Pollock. In this way we can reuse the uipainter, the application
model, etc independently from the UI framework we are using, and
migrating from a desktop application to a web application just free.
If there is some work on this I hope this mail would be forgotten.
Regards
Esteban

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Reinout Heeck-2

Re: seaside and ui`s

[hidden email] wrote:
[...] It would be useful to decouple the abstractions of
> buttons, input fields, checks, etc from their implementations in a
> particular framework such as MVC, Seaside, Pollock.

It seems Magritte does the above:
http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/smalltalk/magritte

> In this way we can
> reuse the uipainter, the application model, etc independently from the
> UI framework we are using, and migrating from a desktop application to a
> web application just free.

R
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Alan Knight-2

Re: seaside and ui`s

In reply to this post by erobles-2

This is essentially what VisualWave does, but it doesn't do it for Seaside, but rather for its own mechanisms.

At 08:45 AM 8/17/2006, [hidden email] wrote:

>Hi list,
>I`m working with Seaside for about a couple of weeks and I think it`s
>excellent. I`m wondering if there is an extension to the UIBuilder in
>order to build UIs for Seaside.
>I have little idea of how UIBuilder works with specs so I inspect it
>and debug some particular cases of examples in order to understand
>it`s behaviour. After a few tests I realize that UIBuilder and Specs
>are mostly design for traditional Widgets which understand
>>>displayOn:. Does anybody question itself to do a refactoring to
>UIBuilder and Spec implementation. It would be useful to decouple the
>abstractions of buttons, input fields, checks, etc from their
>implementations in a particular framework such as MVC, Seaside,
>Pollock. In this way we can reuse the uipainter, the application
>model, etc independently from the UI framework we are using, and
>migrating from a desktop application to a web application just free.
>If there is some work on this I hope this mail would be forgotten.
>Regards
>Esteban
>
>
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Damien Cassou-3-2

Re: seaside and ui`s

In reply to this post by Reinout Heeck-2

Reinout Heeck wrote:
> [hidden email] wrote:
> [...] It would be useful to decouple the abstractions of
>> buttons, input fields, checks, etc from their implementations in a
>> particular framework such as MVC, Seaside, Pollock.
> It seems Magritte does the above:
> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/smalltalk/magritte

Not really. Magritte is used to built forms automatically from models.
You describe your model (a person is represented by a first name which
is a string, a last name which is a string, its birth date which is a
date...) and the form to edit or create new persons is built for you
dynamically on each rendering. You can even combine descriptions (a
person has telephon numbers which is a collection of the model
TelephonNumber).

This has nothing to do with: I put a button here which will trigger this
method, a list here, a menu on the left and a title bar with a big picture).