Hi all,
I just joined this list for real, although I've been following the RSS feed for a month now. In short, I'm a rank amateur. I just tried upgrading to Pharo 1.4. As has been discussed, the default browser doesn't have any refactoring support, so I tried to install Nautilus, following Mariano Peck's blog post of 2012-02-26. (This was actually my first use of Gofer.) It seems to work, but I can't bring up the browser menu with Command-click any more. Did the standard "action click" change somewhere, or is this just an idiosyncrasy of Nautilus? I do most of my work with a MacBook, so I only have one mouse button. If I do the "two finger click", I can can bring up the menu, but that's awkward. Is there a setting somewhere that I can use to bring back command-click? Control-click is the more standard modified-click on the Mac, but that seems to be used by some morphic menu. Basically, since I'm pretty new, I don't know whether this change in behavior is expected or whether it's due to a mistake of my own. Is there a Nautilus list I could ask this on? Is there a different browser that I should try? (I just want method renaming, no "fancy" refactorings.) Regards, Johann |
Hello Johan,
Welcome ! I hope you'll enjoy Pharo as much as we do. On 23 Apr 2012, at 15:07, Johann Hibschman wrote: > Hi all, > > I just joined this list for real, although I've been following the RSS > feed for a month now. In short, I'm a rank amateur. > > I just tried upgrading to Pharo 1.4. As has been discussed, the > default browser doesn't have any refactoring support, so I tried to > install Nautilus, following Mariano Peck's blog post of 2012-02-26. > (This was actually my first use of Gofer.) > > It seems to work, but I can't bring up the browser menu with > Command-click any more. Did the standard "action click" change > somewhere, or is this just an idiosyncrasy of Nautilus? I do most of > my work with a MacBook, so I only have one mouse button. If I do the > "two finger click", I can can bring up the menu, but that's awkward. > Is there a setting somewhere that I can use to bring back > command-click? Control-click is the more standard modified-click on > the Mac, but that seems to be used by some morphic menu. > > Basically, since I'm pretty new, I don't know whether this change in > behavior is expected or whether it's due to a mistake of my own. Is > there a Nautilus list I could ask this on? Is there a different > browser that I should try? (I just want method renaming, no "fancy" > refactorings.) > > Regards, > > Johann Yes, you are right: In Nautilus' Browser, control-click brings up a Morph related menu, as everywhere else in Pharo 1.4. In the browser's top lists, command-click does not seem to work. In the browser's code pane, command-click works if you are not on a method name or class, because then you open a new browser on that symbol. I personally like the two-finger click on the trackpad for menus. I cc'ed the dev list (which has more traffic), so Benjamin (Nautilus' author) can comment. Regards, Sven -- Sven Van Caekenberghe http://stfx.eu Smalltalk is the Red Pill |
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On Apr 23, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Johann Hibschman wrote:
Welcome :) I hope you will have fun here with us ^^
It used to be a bug. But it also seems it reappears :) I have open a bug entry: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5666 And proposed a fix :)
It comes form the list widget itself, not Nautilus :) Thanks for your feedback, Ben
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On Apr 23, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Johann Hibschman wrote: > Hi all, > > I just joined this list for real, although I've been following the RSS > feed for a month now. In short, I'm a rank amateur. Welcome :) > I just tried upgrading to Pharo 1.4. As has been discussed, the > default browser doesn't have any refactoring support, so I tried to > install Nautilus, following Mariano Peck's blog post of 2012-02-26. > (This was actually my first use of Gofer.) You can also download nautilus image from the jenkins server. Now I do not know if there is a version for 1.4 > > It seems to work, but I can't bring up the browser menu with > Command-click any more. Did the standard "action click" change > somewhere, or is this just an idiosyncrasy of Nautilus? I do most of > my work with a MacBook, so I only have one mouse button. If I do the > "two finger click", I can can bring up the menu, but that's awkward. > Is there a setting somewhere that I can use to bring back > command-click? Control-click is the more standard modified-click on > the Mac, but that seems to be used by some morphic menu. > > Basically, since I'm pretty new, I don't know whether this change in > behavior is expected or whether it's due to a mistake of my own. Is > there a Nautilus list I could ask this on? Is there a different > browser that I should try? (I just want method renaming, no "fancy" > refactorings.) > > Regards, > > Johann > |
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On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Benjamin
<[hidden email]> wrote: > > Welcome :) I hope you will have fun here with us ^^ Well, so far I'm having fun. It's a nice break from the daily grind. > It used to be a bug. But it also seems it reappears :) > I have open a bug > entry: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5666 > And proposed a fix :) Thanks, that was quick. For now, I can try to get used to the two-finger-click, or just move from the couch to the table where I can plug in my mouse. The two-finger click isn't bad, but I'm not accustomed to it, and it came as a surprise, since I'd been cmd-clicking everything else in Pharo. (Also, it sounds like a euphemism for some rude gesture.) From a practical point of view, if there is a change, would it appear in the main Pharo development image, or somewhere else? I'm a little uncertain what the right way to stay up-to-date is. So far, I've only used Monticello as a local RCS for my own code, but presumably that's where I should be pulling in updates to other packages. Regards, Johann |
You can either download a new image from Jenkins (my choice if there is more than 3-4 version to load) or you can click on World -> System -> Software update (and take a coffee break ^^)
Ben On Apr 23, 2012, at 4:42 PM, Johann Hibschman wrote: > On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Benjamin > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Welcome :) I hope you will have fun here with us ^^ > > Well, so far I'm having fun. It's a nice break from the daily grind. > >> It used to be a bug. But it also seems it reappears :) >> I have open a bug >> entry: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5666 >> And proposed a fix :) > > Thanks, that was quick. For now, I can try to get used to the > two-finger-click, or just move from the couch to the table where I can > plug in my mouse. The two-finger click isn't bad, but I'm not > accustomed to it, and it came as a surprise, since I'd been > cmd-clicking everything else in Pharo. (Also, it sounds like a > euphemism for some rude gesture.) > > From a practical point of view, if there is a change, would it appear > in the main Pharo development image, or somewhere else? I'm a little > uncertain what the right way to stay up-to-date is. So far, I've only > used Monticello as a local RCS for my own code, but presumably that's > where I should be pulling in updates to other packages. > > Regards, > Johann > |
Ben
do you have a version for 1.4 and 2.0? because 2.0 will get wild :). Stef On Apr 23, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Benjamin wrote: > You can either download a new image from Jenkins (my choice if there is more than 3-4 version to load) or you can click on World -> System -> Software update (and take a coffee break ^^) > > > Ben > > On Apr 23, 2012, at 4:42 PM, Johann Hibschman wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Benjamin >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Welcome :) I hope you will have fun here with us ^^ >> >> Well, so far I'm having fun. It's a nice break from the daily grind. >> >>> It used to be a bug. But it also seems it reappears :) >>> I have open a bug >>> entry: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5666 >>> And proposed a fix :) >> >> Thanks, that was quick. For now, I can try to get used to the >> two-finger-click, or just move from the couch to the table where I can >> plug in my mouse. The two-finger click isn't bad, but I'm not >> accustomed to it, and it came as a surprise, since I'd been >> cmd-clicking everything else in Pharo. (Also, it sounds like a >> euphemism for some rude gesture.) >> >> From a practical point of view, if there is a change, would it appear >> in the main Pharo development image, or somewhere else? I'm a little >> uncertain what the right way to stay up-to-date is. So far, I've only >> used Monticello as a local RCS for my own code, but presumably that's >> where I should be pulling in updates to other packages. >> >> Regards, >> Johann >> > > |
I still have my build for 1.4 :)
I think I will fork the build (and configuration) soon ;) Ben On Apr 23, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Ben > do you have a version for 1.4 and 2.0? > because 2.0 will get wild :). > > Stef > > > On Apr 23, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Benjamin wrote: > >> You can either download a new image from Jenkins (my choice if there is more than 3-4 version to load) or you can click on World -> System -> Software update (and take a coffee break ^^) >> >> >> Ben >> >> On Apr 23, 2012, at 4:42 PM, Johann Hibschman wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Benjamin >>> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Welcome :) I hope you will have fun here with us ^^ >>> >>> Well, so far I'm having fun. It's a nice break from the daily grind. >>> >>>> It used to be a bug. But it also seems it reappears :) >>>> I have open a bug >>>> entry: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5666 >>>> And proposed a fix :) >>> >>> Thanks, that was quick. For now, I can try to get used to the >>> two-finger-click, or just move from the couch to the table where I can >>> plug in my mouse. The two-finger click isn't bad, but I'm not >>> accustomed to it, and it came as a surprise, since I'd been >>> cmd-clicking everything else in Pharo. (Also, it sounds like a >>> euphemism for some rude gesture.) >>> >>> From a practical point of view, if there is a change, would it appear >>> in the main Pharo development image, or somewhere else? I'm a little >>> uncertain what the right way to stay up-to-date is. So far, I've only >>> used Monticello as a local RCS for my own code, but presumably that's >>> where I should be pulling in updates to other packages. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Johann >>> >> >> > > |
ok so that people can load a stable version for 1.4 and we can work on 2.0 :)
> I still have my build for 1.4 :) > > I think I will fork the build (and configuration) soon ;) |
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