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Re: Fonts in Linux

Posted by Alan Knight-3 on Feb 15, 2010; 3:31pm
URL: https://forum.world.st/Fonts-in-Linux-tp1472910p1556242.html

Thanks. That's a good point. I think there are some improvements in 7.7 that help with this, but it's still something that could use a good deal of improvement.

At 03:49 AM 2010-02-15, Jan Weerts wrote:
Hi Alan!

Alan Knight wrote:
We would like to do an update of the X11 fonts (and of various
other things about the font system in general) but we do not at
this point having a schedule we're willing to commit to.
I'm curious exactly what you're looking for in fonts.

The question was not directed to me, but I also have one or two wishes concerning fonts. Here the most frustrating aspect of VW font handling on Linux: for me is its tendency to totally refuse to start up on certain X window managers. I do not say, that these are always configured correctly, but I have never seen a pickier primadonna application that does not even start up, when its favorite fonts are somehow broken. One could argue, that the environment needs to be correct to function correctly, but I wonder, why other applications are not so picky and why VW is not even capable of logging its problem in a way, that indicates to a user of the app (usually not the administrator of the machine), what the problem is.

These kinds of problems date back (at least for us) to 2003, the last incarnation about a week ago with a 7.6 app and an Exceed X server. One culprit seemed to be ArborTextAttributes>>updateLineGridding and the bowels thereof. After capturing errors here, something else blew up and we changed the X server, because we ran out of time for further diagnosis and patching.

I consider this basics. Since I am not a regular VW-on-Linux user the pixeled fonts do not annoy me often enough, so this point does not make it to the same priority as startup problems. But as an indicator: in this shop all the regular (as in every day) developers on VW use Windows, while irregular VW developers use 40% Windows and 60% Linux.

Regards
  Jan

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