Posted by
Terry Raymond on
Sep 03, 2010; 3:08pm
URL: https://forum.world.st/Re-Home-Context-Button-tp2525555p2525828.html
As I understand it, the reason Cincom removed buttons from
the bar was to simplify it. However, the problem is that people
have different usage patterns and what is simple to one person
may be deficient to another. Example;
There were two buttons, intended to operate together,
"Run this context"(also called "Run until return") and
"Run with break again". But, in 7.7.1 "Run with break again"
was removed from the button bar. This essentially makes the
operation useless as the point of the command is to run
until the break occurs. Another way of thinking about this
is "step the next loop iteration".
The problem is that not many people really know how to use
it, so it was removed. Even I don't use it very often but
when needed, it is a great time saver. So, should it be removed
or kept?
You can read about these commands in the documentation under
"Iteration debugging".
I would very much prefer to have the toolbars configurable.
This way a newbie can start with a simple toolbar but an
expert can have all the power at his mouse click.
Terry
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:
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> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 8:09 AM
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> Subject: Re: [vwnc] Home Context Button
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> -1. Obviously I think configurable toolbars would be lovely, both for me
> using VW and for me to provide to our app's users. But they don't solve
> this problem: what should be on the toolbar by default. Developers can't
> duck out of that question by providing configurability.
>
> Since in this case we're talking about a toolbar button used only by
> Smalltalkers, we already have the configurability - probably a single
> extension method with a pragma would bring back the button. That's a
> more familiar and build-automation-friendly method than some new
> "Settings > Debugger > Toolbar Buttons" pane.
>
> Steve
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Behalf Of Andres Valloud
> > Sent: 3. syyskuuta 2010 14:47
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> > Subject: Re: [vwnc] Home Context Button [was: [vw771] dead in the
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> > +1...
> >
> > On 9/3/2010 4:10 AM, Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs (SNN) wrote:
> > > I'll say it again... making toolbars configurable you can save
> > yourself
> > > an endless discussion on trying to come up with something that works
> > for
> > > everyone, because it's simply impossible in this context.
> > >
> > > -Boris
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