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Posted by Tudor Girba on Feb 15, 2011; 5:35pm
URL: https://forum.world.st/Working-with-weak-announcements-tp3305802p3307212.html

Hi everyone,

So, the current situation is that we can make rather quickly on:send:to: work weakly.

There is an almost working version in Lukas' repository, and Esteban and me will try to get it to work. Now, the question is where to publish this. I would suggest to create an official squeaksource.com/announcements repository.

Is that Ok for you, or do you prefer to have it in squeaksource.com/PharoTaskForces?

Cheers,
Doru


On 15 Feb 2011, at 18:21, Tudor Girba wrote:

> Hi Esteban,
>
> I finished the Glamour changes to only use on:send:to: between the Glamour model and the Glamour renderer.
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
> On 15 Feb 2011, at 17:37, Tudor Girba wrote:
>
>> Hi Esteban,
>>
>> I started to refactor all usages of on:do: and when:do: into on:send:to: in the core of Glamour. I am almost finished.
>>
>> Now the only question is if we want to distinguish between WeakAnnouncer and Announcer. Is there a performance penalty or another kind of drawback in merging the two and use the WeakAnnouncer implementation only?
>>
>> The other thing is that we need to add on:send:to:with: and on:send:to:withAll: because we need to handle extra parameters (given that we cannot access local variables).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Doru
>>
>>
>>
>> On 15 Feb 2011, at 13:45, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>>
>>> Well... not exactly, still something to do: the weak associations on weakannouncer are getting a lot of pairs #selector->nil and we need to think in a way to clean this. But this is doable :)
>>> In other order of things, I think we should explicitly forbid the use of #on:do: and #when:do: until the fix for blocks is ready.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Esteban
>>>
>>> El 14/02/2011, a las 6:55p.m., Tudor Girba escribió:
>>>
>>>> Aha. Thanks a lot. Ok, let's do that. Is it true that the Lukas' Announcements already provide the support for on:send:to: ?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Doru
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 14 Feb 2011, at 22:04, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Well, this means, in the mean time, if we want to solve our issue 492 using weak announcements, we need to replace all #on:do: calls for #on:send:to:
>>>>> :(
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Esteban
>>>>>
>>>>> Inicio del mensaje reenviado:
>>>>>
>>>>>> De: Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>
>>>>>> Fecha: 14 de febrero de 2011 17:57:07 GMT-03:00
>>>>>> Para: [hidden email]
>>>>>> Asunto: Re: [Pharo-project] Working with weak announcements...
>>>>>> Responder a: [hidden email]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> good question :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On FHi,
>>>>>>> I'm working with weak announcements,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> good we need that.
>>>>>> Igor was telling me that the right anwser are ephemerons (but for that: gc change is required).
>>>>>> Now it would be good to have first a solution at image level
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> trying to make it work, and I have a problem in #on:do: protocol (or #when:do:)
>>>>>>> I try to explain:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This method receives a block, not an object/selector, so I can't create a WeakMessageSend which is the appropriate message to handle in other cases.
>>>>>>> Well, the real question is... how can I produce a "Weak BlockClosure reference" who can die if receiver dies?
>>>>>>> I tried some hacks (really ugly hacks, btw), but fail completely.
>>>>>>> Any idea?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>> Esteban
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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