> I would be interested in any attempts to produce native bytecode on java vm for pharo.
> Now this is the usual equation: money and money or time.
> JSqueak or Potatos squeak could be also interesting.
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> Stef
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> On Mar 3, 2011, at 11:02 PM, Göran Krampe wrote:
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>> On 03/03/2011 03:37 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
>>> What is the state of Squeak/Pharo/Cuis for Android tablets and phone?
>>> Lots of questions:
>>>  - what is the state of VM/images?
>>>  - any comments/hints on devices, speed and memory consumption?
>>>  - is it worth to buy one to run Smalltalk for own stuff?
>>>  - anyone written apps with Smalltalk for Android?
>>>  - is it possible to interface with native stuff. state of
>>>    touch support, ...
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>> Generally speaking, here are my silly notions in this area:
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>> - Android is heavily oriented around Dalvik and the libraries for it (Java)
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>> - Android will be *the* platform for private computing in the near future IMHO. Yes, I really think so. Android 3.0 looks really hot.
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>> - A Squeak/Pharo/Cuis for Android will never be more than a toy unless we can tap into the Dalvik/Java platform.
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>> - This means we REALLY need JNIPort or similar projects to work really, really well in order to actually use the libraries in full.
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>> ...or we need to get Squeak running inside/on-top-of Dalvik somehow.
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>> Weird ideas:
>> - PotatoSqueak is a port of the Squeak VM to java. Run that on Dalvik and hey...
>> - PySqueak using Pypy could probably generate a fast Squeak VM running in java bytecode which possibly also could be run on Dalvik.
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>> Both the above approaches would probably make interfacing with Dalvik/Java much simpler.
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>> ...or just try using SilverSmalltalk or such. ;)
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>> regards, Göran
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