Posted by Christopher J. Demers on Apr 26, 2004; 11:35pm
URL: https://forum.world.st/What-has-happened-to-Dolphin-Harbour-tp3370442p3370449.html

"Sean Malloy" <[hidden email]> wrote in message
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> Anyways, the Dolphin community sources/links are extremely fragile at
best.
> I'm _still_ finding new Dolphin sites where pac files have been published.
> Dolphin Harbour seems to be one example of something done right, but it
has
> stagnated!

I remember being very impressed by Dolphin Harbor.  However I was not really
sure exactly what it was.  It looked like they were mostly oriented towards
Dolphin Internet technologies.  I wasn't sure if non Internet goodies would
fit there.

> The OA wiki is locked down, so what should be the mother source of
> information is stagnate aswell. Which leaves the news groups as really the
> only place where there is a flow of information about Dolphin. I hate news
> groups!

I never really got into the whole wiki thing, though I did recently try to
add an ADO DB example without success.  I really like this newsgroup, and I
much prefer it to some kind of web board.  If you are into the web board
thing then I suppose you could use Google
http://groups.google.com/groups?group=comp.lang.smalltalk.dolphin .  I use
Google for all my Dolphin newsgroup searches.  I see very little spam in
this group.  I use the free Usenet server here http://individual.net/ to
read and post.

> Andy, are you guys looking at re-addressing this problem? I guess some
would
> look at it as Marketing. Perhaps a few of the OA team members should get
> some sort of blog going (and keep them going) as a way to drum up some
sort
> of information flow from within. Having Blair do a daily snippet or
> something could be good. Or even yourself, or anyone.

I think OA does a _much_ better job of interfacing with the Smalltalk
developer community than some Smalltalk vendors.  I suppose if one does not
find the newsgroup that may miss out on a lot.  I think the sense of
community in this newsgroup is one of the greatest strengths of Dolphin.
Some vendor's Smalltalk newsgroups feel very lonely.  I have seen an
increase in new people posting latly, so I think Dolphin is getting more
exposure.

> There are are so many broken links into the OA site too. I don't really
care
> about it, but plain old 404 messages just look like shit. Someone should
> spend 2 hours and write some sort of intelligent 404 handler for your site
> "Sorry the page is gone, but the content it contained is found
> [link]here[/link]". 404 errors from within Dolphin look _really_ bad, (And
> thats going to be happening on the evaluation version!)

If you are talking about the help links from Dolphin going to broken pages
then I think that really should be fixed, either in the distribution, or on
the web.  In general I think OA has a very nice web site.

> Has anyone else got anything like Dolphin Harbour going?

Well, there is the Dolphin web ring here
http://l.webring.com/hub?ring=dolphinsmalltalk .  If you do a bit of
googling you will find other sites.  Here is a nice list of links
http://mypage.bluewin.ch/a.fischer/dolphinResource.html , perhaps a bit old
though.  I am not aware of anything quite like Dolphin Harbor.  It takes a
lot of work to maintain a good living website.  It is difficult for me to
even keep my little goodie site current.

Chris