>
> Speaking for myself I miss none of the things you've mentioned. If there
> is something missing I can usually write it in Smalltalk in less time than
> it would take me just studying the documentation for some Java/EJB app
> server. Also, frameworks are a very little part of any big application and
> writing web frameworks isn't really a rocket science. The frameworks
> usually just grow along with the app in the direction you need them to
> grow.
>
> Best regards,
>
> David Gorisek
> http://www.gorisek.com