> Hi,
>
> I am not quite sure where arupa is (without form), actually. I have always
> thought of it as namarupa (name and form) and never before as arupa. The VM
> is what deals with form/rupa and binds the names/nama of the image together,
> through dynamic lookup, versus static lookup. Alive & dead.
>
> I've never thought about the arupa of Pharo, yet I was thinking it was the
> meta layers, where everything has the same amorphic form.
>
> Perhaps the analogy starts to fall apart. My apologies...I'll try for
> #random. :)
>
> nameste,
> robert
>
>
> --
> There are five kinds of coloring (kleshas):
> 1) forgetting, or ignorance about the true nature of things (avidya),
> 2) I-ness, individuality, or egoism (asmita),
> 3) attachment or addiction to mental impressions or objects (raga),
> 4) aversion to thought patterns or objects (dvesha), and
> 5) love of these as being life itself, as well as fear of their loss as
> being death.
> (avidya asmita raga dvesha abhinivesha pancha klesha)
>
>
> On 12/27/2015 09:44 AM, Robert Withers wrote:
>
> I was thinking about this on my drive home, more, and I think that I was
> jumping the duck. #new is related to named classes, therefore in the analogy
> of brahma-loka, this is more of a rupa level behavior. The arupa level is
> there (and there is a #new at that level) but it deals with things that have
> no form, but by name only (#allInstancesDo:).
>
> cheers,
> robert
>
> ---
>
> And yet everything that is created does not rest in Me.
> Behold My mystic opulence! Although I am the maintainer
> of all living entities and although I am everywhere, I am
> not a part of this cosmic manifestation, for My Self is the
> very source of creation.
>
>
>
>
> On 12/26/2015 08:50 PM, Robert Withers wrote:
>
> On Dec 26, 2015, at 2:26 AM, Saša Janiška <
[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On Pet, 2015-12-25 at 15:59 -0500, Robert Withers wrote:
>
> Hello Robert,
>
> Good day Saša,
>
> Welcome to Pharo! I view use of Pharo (squeak) as a knowledge
> sacrifice eliminating bondage to Karma. This is not the mainstream and
> a good thing too.
>
> Nice comparison...although, being at the beginning I still do not
> understand/see it as a sacrifice, but can feel it is liberating.
>
> I suppose I think that the expenditure of time, resources, concentration and
> effort constitute said sacrifice of knowledge as new broader knowledge
> supplants older limited knowledge.
>
>
> As an example, where is the root implementation of #new defined? Hint:
> it is close to Pharo's arupa-brahma-loka, the highest planes. ;)
>
> :-)
>
> Well I do think the meta system is the realms of brahma-loka, and that is
> split into rupa and arupa. Please let us know your thoughts on this
> speculation when you find #new! :-)