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Re: Creation form from PNG file very slow on Pharo 4 and 5

Posted by kilon.alios on Jan 16, 2016; 8:16pm
URL: https://forum.world.st/Creation-form-from-PNG-file-very-slow-on-Pharo-4-and-5-tp4871776p4871897.html

how the bug report is bad ?

No the workarounds were not helpful because I was already aware of them :)

I appreciate people trying to help as always but yes it was upsetting to me , to be told that my bug report is bad, that loading 60 tiny images in 1 second is acceptable for a GUI and that opening 60 files is also near the limitation of my hardware. Because I find every one of them , very far from the truth and not very helpful.

But I may have overacted also in my part so I apologize. All is good life goes on :)

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 9:51 PM Nicolai Hess <[hidden email]> wrote:

2016-01-16 15:40 GMT+01:00 Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]>:
disk, 1TB. why it matters ? from my profile its clear that its not the primitive that is the problem but how Pharo processes pngs.

I happen to work with a lot of big data both in 3d graphics, a blender file can easily reach 250 mb and it opens under a second and audio files , plus instrument that uses alot of audio files as samples of several gbs giving again instanenous loading. I am not talking here 60 files, I am talking thousands of files.

I report a sever limitation and I have been told

a) I have not done enough to isolate the problem when I post clear profiling reports and the code that is responsible for it

The bug report was indeed bad.

b) why I make a fuss about it since there are work arounds

I did not see the "why make a fuss about". And the work arounds are actually helpful, no?

c) that its a hardware limitation when the hardware is able to perform light years ahead of what pharo is currently doing

Sorry but this kind of attitude is really bad, when someone reports a bug I find it a lot better to tell him that you don't care or not reply at all and ignore him than just find excuses for the bug or limitation.

You reported a problem with morphics image loading and some people immediately step in to help you analyse your code. More pepole helped by
giving some tipps and possible workaounds.
What is wrong with this. I don't see a bad attitude.

I see it every single time I complain about a problem there is a few people who are logical about this like Ben , Esteban etc and then some other that in complete denial zone and easily offended by the truth.

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 4:07 PM Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]> wrote:
On 16-01-16 14:48, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
> sorry but thats plain horrible performance wise and those images are
> needed as soon as the gui is opened. So there can be no lazy loading for
> them. The total size for all the 60 images is 530kbs . What would happen
> if I did some serious animations of 10s of mbs , I will have to go to
> buy a coffee to get my GUI opened :D

Is that on a disk or an SSD? You won't be able to get much more than 60
files opened/s on a disk.

Stephan