> Hi Benoit,
>
> 2016-02-24 19:19 GMT-03:00 benoit <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>>:
>
>     Hello,
>
>       the first thing we need is an official website with up to date
>     info. I am making a bit of advertising for Smalltalk in my company
>     and I wanted to list all web framework. Iliad is the only one to not
>     have an official website.
>       Right now we have :
>              - http://smalltalk.gnu.org/project/Iliad : pointing to an
>     homepage wich does'nt exist anymore (the content displayed is some
>     WiMAX japanese thing) ;
>              - https://github.com/NicolasPetton/iliad with no life since
>     4 years ago ;
>              - https://code.google.com/archive/p/iliadproject : same
>     issue as the first link ;
>              - and 4 projects on SmalltalkHub which does'nt show up on
>     google and with very little content to help new users.
>
>
> This is a must-have. I don't like github but we can add a page, just for
> the sake of having presence.
>
>
>     Back on code, my wishlist/needs are :
>
>     #Better integration of CSS
>        We are able to cope with html and javascript in Smalltalk, why
>     isn't it the case with CSS ?
>        We should be able to :
>              - manage multiple css class for a widget without having
>     concatene strings ;
>              - list all css class used in an application and generate a
>     basic css file with default values provided by widget ;
>              - maybe to have extensions to theme an app with Bootstrap
>     or Foundation (not really a need for myself as I am using
>     PocketGrid, but I think it would be great for advertisement).
>
>
> I think there are two fronts with CSS.
>
> One is to support "native" CSS objects (nice for a future UI builder and
> creatings CSS constructs beyond current high-level presentation objects
> provided by CSS libraries). On this side there are several who attempted
> to provide CSS Frameworks (myself included) for example
> https://github.com/gcotelli/RenoirSt and
> http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~hernan/Phantasia
> (I guess people is not very interested in this route now...)
>
> Another front is a model to import "external" arbitrary CSS framework:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSS_frameworks
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CSS_frameworks>
> On this side I still have to decouple PureCSS.io (a responsive CSS
> framework) from an extension library I am writing, so any other external
> CSS framework could be "easily" imported. There is also
> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/CSSFrameworks.html which I haven't checked yet.
>
>
>     #Simple way to add shortcuts
>       I would like to allow the use of keypress shortcuts for navigation
>     in my webapps but for now what I tried does'nt seem to work, and a
>     real support in the framework would be nice.
>       Maybe going as far as having an event listener with a full
>     propagation model.
>
>
>     #Update the version of jQuery used
>       Just to be sure to avoid bitrotting and for showing that Iliad is
>     still alive
>
>
> Yes, this is important to keep in sync with other Js libraries...
>
>
>     #Port to ZnServer
>       Same thing as jQuery, it seems the way to go and maybe should give
>     us some easier interactions with other citizens of our beloved
>     Smalltalk realm (like Teapot).
>
>
> Maybe someone could check the first Seaside version with Zinc support?
> We could start from there.
>
>
>     #Better comments and more example right in the source code
>       Self explaining, but we are clearly not on the quality level
>     wanted by the Pharo team.
>
>
> I did a pass today to the source code and there are practically no
> comments at all :(
>
>
>       And there is some things that I would like to be able to do but
>     don't know right now if/how it's possible :
>
>     #Being able to generate and serve later a static version from a page
>     served by Iliad, the idea is that I am using Iliad as a private
>     application (protected by a password), but would like to be able to
>     publish some content done in the application.
>
>
> Have you checked https://github.com/guillep/ecstatic ? Maybe there is
> something interesting from there?
>
>     #I can't found a wey to give the focus to an input field that I just
>     displayed after an user action
>
>
> Didn't tried yet, but AFAIK in Seaside you need to pass some javascript.
>
> Regards,
>
> Hernán
>
>     Regards,
>     Benoit
>
>     Le 2/24/16 4:25 PM, Hernán Morales Durand a écrit :
>
>         Hello,
>
>         Maybe we can benefit each other if we know what's missing in Iliad.
>
>         For me I tried to build a file uploader but is broken because of
>         a weird
>         request to automatic redirect (after upload POST) which I couldn't
>         detect yet. So maybe a jQuery file uploader plugin could be an
>         option, I
>         need to evaluate which one of
>         http://jquery-plugins.net/tag/file-upload
>         is best suitable. That could or not imply a jQuery update.
>
>         In the meantime I implemented two Iliad widgets: FileBrowser and
>         FileSelector. Nothing spectacular, but could be useful for you. Will
>         upload to Iliad repo tomorrow.
>
>         On the other side, I started to diagram the KomServices interactions
>         because DynamicBindings are complicated and a port to ZnServer
>         could be
>         nice in either efficiency and debugging.
>
>         So, can we build a wish list?
>
>         Hernán
>
>
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