> Hi Tim,
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 04:04:33PM +0100, Tim Mackinnon wrote:
>> I think my thread is misunderstood - I???m not saying change how
>> methods work, class methods are fine, instance methods are fine -
>> I???m just saying I don???t think its ideal anymore to see them so
>> separately in our UI. It was really driven home watching great
>> programmers struggle (sure Smalltalk is a bit different - and there
>> are many elegant things we have, but class methods are pretty normal
>> in many languages) - and I have a similar frustration in that I find
>> it a straight jacket that we have to click that class button just
>> because we want to write what is effectively a constructor that occurs
>> to us when we are writing an instance method. Its very jarring and
>> breaks your flow to ???switch mode??? to type one in.
>
> From a purely subjective perspective, having programmed in an
> environment where instance and class methods were mixed together
> (Python), my opinion is that it makes things more difficult to
> understand.
>
> I also think from a theoretical perspective that they should be kept
> separate:
>
> Sending an instance method means sending a message to a different object
> from sending a class method, so they should be kept separate.
>
> While I agree that visually Nautilus could do a much better job of
> distinguishing between instance and class methods, it isn't an argument
> in favour of mixing them in a single list.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Alistair
>
>
>> I think Pharo is an environment to experiment with how we think about
>> programming (in Smalltalk as well as other languages) - GTInspector is
>> marvellous, that is something that really shows how thinking about the
>> problem differently can make such a difference. While, I think our
>> standard code browsers are ok - they are stuck in a rut that we need
>> to break. Calypso is a hint at what is possible, but I want
>> GTinspector type thinking more prevalent??? with similar types of
>> ideas that inspire us to code better.
>>
>> Anyway, it seems like I need to take this away and try some
>> experiments by myself.
>>
>> Tim
>