> On 5 Sep 2019, at 10:54, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Stef,
>
> I understand - but before we focus the discussion too much on the mentioned #abortionismurder let's bring #4491 into perspective:
>
> 1. Important: I guess we all agree that we would like to tweet and inform as much on technical topics about Smalltalk in general and
>    Pharo in particular and not correlate our activities to single peoples personal habits, politics, religion or beliefs.
>
> 2. The aggregator that I suggested in the issue (https://twitter.com/WorldDotSt) is related to the website world.st - which is
>    a really useful technical resource on Smalltalk, Pharo and ESUG infos already throughout the years:
>
>     - The forum page http://forum.world.st is summarizing various ST Mailinglists including ESUG list
>     - https://twitter.com/WorldDotSt aggregates most of the Pharo and Smalltalker Tweets in existence
>
> 3. You are referring in this thread here to the following tweet: https://twitter.com/AmberSmalltalk/status/1169239145530761217
>    which is associating @esugsmalltalk @SergeStinckwich @stephaneducasse #smalltalk for whatever reason with the hash tag #abortionismurder
>
>    I understand your reaction and post - but this was done outside our boundaries by twitter user "AmberSmalltalk" - also not by the aggregator
>    itself. And yes - this "AmberSmalltalk" owner seems to mix sometimes personal beliefs into technical infos. I share your doubts and dislike
>    this as well.
>
>    It's a problem that existed before and is a problem of tweeting and social media in general. Something that is IMHO independent from described
>    issue #4491 - and you and Serge definitely need to sort out this #abortionismurder thing with the owner of this specific account.
>
> 4. The issue #4491 mentions that currently the Pharo community page (http://www.pharo.org/community)
>
>    for Twitter ONLY PROMOTES
>        a) the offical tweet account @pharoproject
>        b) your personal @stephaneducasse account
>    as the ones to follow.
>
>    But we have many more interesting community members tweeting on Pharo as you see on the list in the referred issue. So we should either
>    extend the community page with either more personal accounts, just use the offical one or use an external or own aggregator
>    including hashtags like #pharo, #pharoproject, ...
>
>
> 5. As you might have noticed I also opened a second issue #4490 (https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/4490) as for the blogs mentioned
>    on the community page we have something similar:
>
>    For Blogs WE ONLY PROMOTE on that page:
>        a) the official pharo weekly
>        b) my personal astares blog
>        c) the personal blog of clement
>
>    But my blog is not special either - so an aggregator of the various Smalltalks blogs (as the one suggested from planet smalltalk)
>    made initially sense to me as it would include more blogs of members of the community and we would not have to adopt the community page all
>    the time a new blog appears.
>
>    There are nice Pharo blogs out there like https://www.samadhiweb.com/blog, http://humane-assessment.com/blog and many other.
>
>    Same applies here: either we just include the offical blog that we control, a list of more blogs of the various members or an aggregator
>
> 6. Yes - the community is unable to control what people write on Twitter, Blogs or other social media. Even our mailinglist "pharo-users_lists"
>    is not free from personal habits as yesterdays disussion about "guns" showed.
>    (http://lists.pharo.org/pipermail/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org/2019-September/044168.html)
>
>    And maybe linking to these aggregators or promoting them is not a good idea. If we take the discussion (over)serious we should then
>    really only link to official twitter account and official pharo blog that the community can control.
>
>    In such a case we need to remove my blog and your personal twitter account from the community page as you sometimes tweet about
>    politics on your personal account too and I can potentially write on other non-technical topics on my blog as well (which I do not plan).
>
>
> Basically we have four options:
>  a) we only link to the official twitter account (https://twitter.com/pharoproject) and blog (https://pharoweekly.wordpress.com/)
>  b) extend the list with personal twitter accounts as mentioned in issue #4491 and blogs like mentioned in #4490
>  c) Link and rely on external aggregators
>  d) Setup an own aggregator on sources we trust
>
> Maybe as a valid solution an official "disclaimer" could help - that opinions shared on these PROMOTED sources are not controlled by
> us and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the Pharo community
>
> And yes - the board should discuss, check and decide what to put or link to from the community page.
>
> Thanks
> T.
>
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 05. September 2019 um 08:03 Uhr
>> Von: "ducasse" <[hidden email]>
>> An: "Pharo Development List" <[hidden email]>
>> Cc: "The Pharo Project" <[hidden email]>
>> Betreff: [Pharo-dev] About tweets
>>
>> Hi guys
>>
>> I encourage everybody to read this issue until the last conversation.
>> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/4491
>>
>> I have problem to promote an aggregator that can contain tweets containing #abortionismurder inside.!!!!!!!!!
>> And I have even more problem that this is in a tweet on Amber Weekly!!!!
>>
>> I do not know who is behind AmberSmalltalk tweets but for me this is clearly impossible to read this
>> on a tweet that Pharo supports.
>>
>> I also have a problem to promote an aggregator account
>> We can provide a list and people what they want.
>> I do not like the idea of aggregation. So I vote against and I will ask the board to decide.
>>
>> Stef
>>
>>
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