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> This is what I provided the JRMPC participants: https://jrmpc.ca/ (see "How
> to learn Smalltalk programming"). I'm not sure how I could've done better,
> though.
>
> You make an excellent point about duplication and keeping documentation
> up-to-date. However, there has to be some middle ground that makes it easier
> and more convenient for new developers to find the tools they need. Perhaps
> a synoptical reference showing the more common classes used, such as
> collections, web-related classes, time-related classes, exception and error
> classes, file system-related classes, process-related classes, and so on.
> These classes ought not to change much, if at all.
>
>
>
> Tim Mackinnon wrote
> > Or we teach people to fish…? What’s the point of duplicating everything
> > that’s already in the image anyway - we just need to be cleverer or ensure
> > that people know to look there and have the right onboarding experience to
> > do that? Otherwise its just another thing that gets out of date very
> > rapidly and we already have enough problems with that.
> >
> > I’d be interested in what intro material Richard gave the students to
> > start with (after all - he has quite a few tutorials of his own, some of
> > which I had followed - but I suspect they are out of date now themselves).
> > When you launch pharo there is the helpful welcome screen - did the
> > student’s actually use it and follow what it says?
> >
> > And did we see any of them in this forum (or was that against the rules?)
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >> On 24 Mar 2020, at 17:28, Ben Coman <
>
> > btc@
>
> > > wrote:
> >>
> >> Pharo has some good documentation, but its more lesson-based than a
> >> library reference.
> >> Those of us familiar with Pharo know the tricks to use the system itself
> >> as that reference, but I'd imagine this is an unfamiliar workflow for
> >> newcomers.
> >>
> >> I have seen before a class library reference generated from the image,
> >> but I couldn't put my hands on it right now.
> >> @all, is it still being generated?. This might provide newcomers
> >> something more familiar to work with.
> >>
> >> cheers -ben
> >>
> >> On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 03:00, Richard Kenneth Eng <
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> > horrido.hobbies@
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> >  <mailto:
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> > horrido.hobbies@
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> > >> wrote:
> >> https://jrmpc.ca/2020/03/20/what-makes-learning-smalltalk-challenging/
> >> <https://jrmpc.ca/2020/03/20/what-makes-learning-smalltalk-challenging/>
> >>
> >> FWIW, 95% of respondents pointed to the lack of reference documentation
> >> for the class library as the major obstacle to learning Smalltalk/Pharo.
> >>
> >> Richard
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