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keith1y

title attribute

I was looking for the #title: attribute and found it implemented
as #title: only on WAAnghorTag, whereas #tooltip: implements #title:
on WABrushTag.

I just thought that I would point out the inconsistency if anyone is
interested

Keith

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Philippe Marschall

Re: title attribute

2006/9/22, Keith Hodges <[hidden email]>:
> I was looking for the #title: attribute and found it implemented
> as #title: only on WAAnghorTag, whereas #tooltip: implements #title:
> on WABrushTag.
>
> I just thought that I would point out the inconsistency if anyone is
> interested

Yeah, this is known. Unfortunately it's not the worst part of Seaside.
Don't even get me started on #url: <-> #src:
There are some parts in Seaside, that have really low code quality.

Now the 1'000'000$ dollar question: What should we do?
- kill WAAnghorTag >> #title:
- push up WAAnghorTag >> #title: and kill WABrushTag >> #tooltip:
- just push up WAAnghorTag >> #title:

Note that removing methods will break some code. Can we forward the
complain mails to you?

Philippe
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Avi Bryant

Re: title attribute

On Sep 21, 2006, at 10:59 PM, Philippe Marschall wrote:
>
> Yeah, this is known. Unfortunately it's not the worst part of Seaside.
> Don't even get me started on #url: <-> #src:
> There are some parts in Seaside, that have really low code quality.
>
> Now the 1'000'000$ dollar question: What should we do?
> - kill WAAnghorTag >> #title:
> - push up WAAnghorTag >> #title: and kill WABrushTag >> #tooltip:
> - just push up WAAnghorTag >> #title:

My vote: get rid of #tooltip:. I think most people who work with
HTML are used to thinking of that as "title". Then either push
#title: up or make sure it exists in all of the places it makes sense
(I haven't looked at the spec, can you really have it on any tag?).

> Note that removing methods will break some code. Can we forward the
> complain mails to you?

You can forward them to me. I'm used to breaking backwards
compatibility, and in minor cases like this it's easy for people to
fix their code. Of course, that's easy for me to say, because I know
I have no senders of #tooltip: to change. :)

Avi
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Ramon Leon-5

RE: title attribute

> On Sep 21, 2006, at 10:59 PM, Philippe Marschall wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, this is known. Unfortunately it's not the worst part
> of Seaside.
> > Don't even get me started on #url: <-> #src:
> > There are some parts in Seaside, that have really low code quality.
> >
> > Now the 1'000'000$ dollar question: What should we do?
> > - kill WAAnghorTag >> #title:
> > - push up WAAnghorTag >> #title: and kill WABrushTag >> #tooltip:
> > - just push up WAAnghorTag >> #title:
>
> My vote: get rid of #tooltip:. I think most people who work
> with HTML are used to thinking of that as "title". Then either push
> #title: up or make sure it exists in all of the places it
> makes sense (I haven't looked at the spec, can you really
> have it on any tag?).
>
> > Note that removing methods will break some code. Can we forward the
> > complain mails to you?
>
> You can forward them to me. I'm used to breaking backwards
> compatibility, and in minor cases like this it's easy for
> people to fix their code. Of course, that's easy for me to
> say, because I know I have no senders of #tooltip: to change. :)
>
> Avi

HTML 4.01 Specification says title applies to all elements but BASE,
BASEFONT, HEAD, HTML, META, PARAM, SCRIPT, TITLE. I think I may have been
the one to add #tootip: way back when I first got started with Seaside, and
looking in my image, I have a bunch of senders to it, easy fix. I think
#title: should be pushed up to tagbrush and #tooltip: removed.

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Ramon Leon-5

RE: title attribute

> > > Note that removing methods will break some code. Can we
> forward the
> > > complain mails to you?
> >
> > You can forward them to me. I'm used to breaking backwards
> > compatibility, and in minor cases like this it's easy for people to
> > fix their code. Of course, that's easy for me to say,
> because I know
> > I have no senders of #tooltip: to change. :)
> >
> > Avi
>
> HTML 4.01 Specification says title applies to all elements
> but BASE, BASEFONT, HEAD, HTML, META, PARAM, SCRIPT, TITLE.
> I think I may have been the one to add #tootip: way back when
> I first got started with Seaside, and looking in my image, I
> have a bunch of senders to it, easy fix. I think
> #title: should be pushed up to tagbrush and #tooltip: removed.

Hmm... Looks like Seaside2.6b1-mb82 already pushed up #title: to tagbrush,
so no worries.

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