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Maarten Mostert-2
For info !


> Message du 15/04/10 20:11
> De : "Alan Knight"
> A : "Miguel Sanchez" , [hidden email]
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> Objet : Re: [vwnc] Store Magritte download
>
> There seems to be an issue there with Magritte attempting to extend namespace semantics, and defining a namespace
with defineFirstFindNamespace: ... which the atomic loader does not like. It looks like someone published a version
which claims it deals with this problem, but it doesn't seem to. You can try going to the Store settings, and under
Loading policies turn off "Use the Atomic Loader". There are other things you can do, and someone should really fix
that, but that's probably the easiest thing for a beginner.
>
> You probably also want to load MagritteForVisualWorks rather than Magritte-All. Other than the namespace issue,
and a walkback in trying to initialize, that was fairly easily bypassed, it seemed to load OK. But I didn't try to
run it.
>
> At 09:08 AM 2010-04-15, Miguel Sanchez wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >
> >I would like some assistance in getting Magritte installed from the public repositroy.
> >
> >I'm trying, unsuccessfully so far, to load the Magritte package into VW7.7nc image. After some initial problems
with connecting to the store with James Robertson kindly helped me with I'm connecting successfully to the store.
> >
> >As instructed in the package comments I have turned off atomic loads.
> >
> >I'm first getting Magritte-all (trs,295,trs) and I'm getting loads of messages with unloadable definitions and
the end of which I have Magritte package definitions and some methods created in existing classes. I have no (as far
as I can tell) Magritte classes created.
> >
> >As I'm new to VW, the public repository I would appreciate if someone could give me a pointer to get up and
running. Perhaps I'm trying to load an unstable version, or there is some implicit dependency on another package.

> >
> >Best Regards,
> >
> >
> >Miguel Sanchez
> >_______________________________________________
> >vwnc mailing list
> >[hidden email]
> >http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc
>
> --
> Alan Knight [|], Engineering Manager, Cincom Smalltalk
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> [hidden email]
> http://www.cincom.com/smalltalk
>
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Miguel Sanchez
second attempt. no success.

1. I turned off Atomic loading in the settings.
2. Tried loading MagritteForVisualWorks (trs.295,trs)
3. Selected latest packages when prompted
4. Got loads of errors on the Magritte.* packages (see below).  From what I can see methods were added to Object and various core classes but hardly any new classes created. Squeak.* packages loaded fine

Error dump follows All packages gave similar errors.:

Warning: Package "Magritte-Model" cannot be loaded.

The following classes cannot be loaded because their environment is not in the image nor in the package being loaded:  
    MAPriorityContainer (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Magritte)
    MAPluggableAccessor (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Magritte)
.... edited for brevity.
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Re: Re: [vwnc] Store Magritte download

Julian Fitzell-2
In reply to this post by Maarten Mostert-2
The newer Pier and Magritte versions that I ported to VA Smalltalk using Grease last fall will presumably be easier to get running on VW as well (if nobody has done that yet)...

Julian

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Maarten MOSTERT <[hidden email]> wrote:
For info !


> Message du 15/04/10 20:11
> De : "Alan Knight"
> A : "Miguel Sanchez" , [hidden email]
> Copie à :
> Objet : Re: [vwnc] Store Magritte download
>
> There seems to be an issue there with Magritte attempting to extend namespace semantics, and defining a namespace
with defineFirstFindNamespace: ... which the atomic loader does not like. It looks like someone published a version
which claims it deals with this problem, but it doesn't seem to. You can try going to the Store settings, and under
Loading policies turn off "Use the Atomic Loader". There are other things you can do, and someone should really fix
that, but that's probably the easiest thing for a beginner.
>
> You probably also want to load MagritteForVisualWorks rather than Magritte-All. Other than the namespace issue,
and a walkback in trying to initialize, that was fairly easily bypassed, it seemed to load OK. But I didn't try to
run it.
>
> At 09:08 AM 2010-04-15, Miguel Sanchez wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >
> >I would like some assistance in getting Magritte installed from the public repositroy.
> >
> >I'm trying, unsuccessfully so far, to load the Magritte package into VW7.7nc image. After some initial problems
with connecting to the store with James Robertson kindly helped me with I'm connecting successfully to the store.
> >
> >As instructed in the package comments I have turned off atomic loads.
> >
> >I'm first getting Magritte-all (trs,295,trs) and I'm getting loads of messages with unloadable definitions and
the end of which I have Magritte package definitions and some methods created in existing classes. I have no (as far
as I can tell) Magritte classes created.
> >
> >As I'm new to VW, the public repository I would appreciate if someone could give me a pointer to get up and
running. Perhaps I'm trying to load an unstable version, or there is some implicit dependency on another package.
> >
> >Best Regards,
> >
> >
> >Miguel Sanchez
> >_______________________________________________
> >vwnc mailing list
> >[hidden email]
> >http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc
>
> --
> Alan Knight [|], Engineering Manager, Cincom Smalltalk
> [hidden email]
> [hidden email]
> http://www.cincom.com/smalltalk
>
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