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Stéphane Ducasse

tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

Hi guys

We will do a coding sprint here at Santiago @ DCC (Pleaid building)
http://pleiad.dcc.uchile.cl

We should have a list of issue to fix :)
I will check the issues in the bug tracker but any help, wishes from this sprint is welcome.

Stef

Camillo Bruni-3

Re: tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

good :) maybe I have time to do a pass on the tracker...

On 2013-01-26, at 13:30, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi guys
>
> We will do a coding sprint here at Santiago @ DCC (Pleaid building)
> http://pleiad.dcc.uchile.cl
>
> We should have a list of issue to fix :)
> I will check the issues in the bug tracker but any help, wishes from this sprint is welcome.
>
> Stef

Stéphane Ducasse

Re: tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

I started to flag some issues wth springChile.
And we will probably do another pass for the sprint the 8th

stef

On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote:

> good :) maybe I have time to do a pass on the tracker...
>
> On 2013-01-26, at 13:30, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys
>>
>> We will do a coding sprint here at Santiago @ DCC (Pleaid building)
>> http://pleiad.dcc.uchile.cl
>>
>> We should have a list of issue to fix :)
>> I will check the issues in the bug tracker but any help, wishes from this sprint is welcome.
>>
>> Stef
>
>

Sean P. DeNigris

Re: tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

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Stéphane Ducasse wrote

We will do a coding sprint here at Santiago @ DCC (Pleaid building)
http://pleiad.dcc.uchile.cl

What time is the sprint tomorrow? I want to join virtually from NYC...

Cheers,
Sean

Stéphane Ducasse

Re: tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

I guess starting around 9h30

On Jan 28, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:

> Stéphane Ducasse wrote
>> We will do a coding sprint here at Santiago @ DCC (Pleaid building)
>> http://pleiad.dcc.uchile.cl
>
> What time is the sprint tomorrow? I want to join virtually from NYC...
>
>
>
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Sean P. DeNigris

Re: tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

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Stéphane Ducasse wrote

I guess starting around 9h30

Great, I want to play. I'll be online and available via Skype/phone/IRC/smoke-signals/whatever bright and early (I think that's 0730 in NY time)...

Cheers,
Sean

Peter H. Meadows

Re: tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

Maybe we should use OpenQwaq for virtual sprints! (But first we have to port it to Pharo :-/
)

On 29 January 2013 04:18, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:

Stéphane Ducasse wrote

> I guess starting around 9h30

Great, I want to play. I'll be online and available via
Skype/phone/IRC/smoke-signals/whatever bright and early (I think that's 0730
in NY time)...

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Marcus Denker-4

Re: tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:40 AM, Peter H. Meadows <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Maybe we should use OpenQwaq for virtual sprints! (But first we have to port it to Pharo :-/

It's GPL.

Marcus

Peter H. Meadows

Re: tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

So? That doesn't mean we can't run it in Pharo, does it?

or..

OpenCobalt is MIT..

On 29 January 2013 06:12, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:40 AM, Peter H. Meadows <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Maybe we should use OpenQwaq for virtual sprints! (But first we have to port it to Pharo :-/

It's GPL.

Marcus

Marcus Denker-4

Re: tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:21 AM, "Peter H. Meadows" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> So? That doesn't mean we can't run it in Pharo, does it?
>

GPL is very complicated in Smalltalk. As soon as you distribute the image, the viral part kicks
in.

It's even a question if this means that the MIT parts then magically have to be GPL, too
(which they can not).
I think the FSF counts MIT as compatible in the sense that you can
mix code bases without having to make the MIT code GPL, but of course the more strong
one is the only one that matters when the overall system is distributed together.

It is hard to find a reason why anyone would invest into a code base like that (other than
the company that has the copyright so for them, they can use another license when distributing).

Even the FSF uses a less strict license for code that people are supposed to link to, a Linux
where every program would be forced to be GPL would never have been successful.

You can't build a platform like this.

Marcus

Peter H. Meadows

Re: tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

But isn't squeak MIT license now? And OpenQwaq uses squeak. So I don't see why we couldn't in theory port it to Pharo (not that anyone is going to any time soon; I'm told it would be a lot of work).

But anyway. Wouldn't it be really cool to do virtual Pharo code sprints in OpenCobalt or qwaq

? Has anyone tried OC or OQ for pair programming?

On 29 January 2013 06:52, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:21 AM, "Peter H. Meadows" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> So? That doesn't mean we can't run it in Pharo, does it?
>

GPL is very complicated in Smalltalk. As soon as you distribute the image, the viral part kicks
in.

It's even a question if this means that the MIT parts then magically have to be GPL, too
(which they can not).
I think the FSF counts MIT as compatible in the sense that you can
mix code bases without having to make the MIT code GPL, but of course the more strong
one is the only one that matters when the overall system is distributed together.

It is hard to find a reason why anyone would invest into a code base like that (other than
the company that has the copyright so for them, they can use another license when distributing).

Even the FSF uses a less strict license for code that people are supposed to link to, a Linux
where every program would be forced to be GPL would never have been successful.

You can't build a platform like this.

Marcus

Marcus Denker-4

Re: tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

On Jan 29, 2013, at 8:09 AM, Peter H. Meadows <[hidden email]> wrote:

> But isn't squeak MIT license now? And OpenQwaq uses squeak. So I don't see why we couldn't in theory port it to Pharo (not that anyone is going to any time soon; I'm told it would be a lot of work).
>

But who would invest his life into this is the resulting code base is GPL and can't server as the foundation
to build my/our/the future?

Marcus

Peter H. Meadows

Re: tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

I would. It would be a nice thing for the community to have. (Plus I'm an anarchist so I don't care what the law says. I only care about behaving in an ethical way. But this isn't the list for philosophy :-)

But I think porting OQ is beyond my skill level at the moment :(

I suppose people who think only MIT code is worth spending time on could port OpenCobalt to Pharo.. that would be nice...

On 29 January 2013 07:17, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Jan 29, 2013, at 8:09 AM, Peter H. Meadows <[hidden email]> wrote:

> But isn't squeak MIT license now? And OpenQwaq uses squeak. So I don't see why we couldn't in theory port it to Pharo (not that anyone is going to any time soon; I'm told it would be a lot of work).
>

But who would invest his life into this is the resulting code base is GPL and can't server as the foundation
to build my/our/the future?

Marcus

Sean P. DeNigris

Re: tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

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Sean P. DeNigris wrote

Stéphane Ducasse wrote

I guess starting around 9h30

Great, I want to play. I'll be online and available via Skype/phone/IRC/smoke-signals/whatever bright and early (I think that's 0730 in NY time)...

Have you guys started yet? I'm on the pharo IRC channel and can Skype if necessary...

Cheers,
Sean

Stéphane Ducasse

Re: tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

In reply to this post by Sean P. DeNigris

sean I'm online on skype
stducasse

I'm looking at your fixes.

On Jan 29, 2013, at 1:18 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:

> Stéphane Ducasse wrote
>> I guess starting around 9h30
>
> Great, I want to play. I'll be online and available via
> Skype/phone/IRC/smoke-signals/whatever bright and early (I think that's 0730
> in NY time)...
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/tuesday-we-will-do-a-coding-sprint-here-at-Santiago-tp4665536p4666042.html
> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

Stéphane Ducasse

Re: tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

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We were fighting a daemon - with a lot of dark implication.
The fact that we cannot load certain package two times in a row with gofer.
It looks stupid but it spotted several bugs.

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7284

Stef

On Jan 29, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:

> Sean P. DeNigris wrote
>>
>> Stéphane Ducasse wrote
>>> I guess starting around 9h30
>> Great, I want to play. I'll be online and available via
>> Skype/phone/IRC/smoke-signals/whatever bright and early (I think that's
>> 0730 in NY time)...
>
> Have you guys started yet? I'm on the pharo IRC channel and can Skype if
> necessary...
>
>
>
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>

Sean P. DeNigris

Re: tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

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No problem... just was worried about you guys ;) just sent you a request on skype...

On Jan 29, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Stéphane Ducasse [via Smalltalk] <[hidden email]> wrote:

We were fighting a daemon - with a lot of dark implication.
The fact that we cannot load certain package two times in a row with gofer.
It looks stupid but it spotted several bugs.

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7284

Stef

On Jan 29, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:

> Sean P. DeNigris wrote
>>
>> Stéphane Ducasse wrote
>>> I guess starting around 9h30
>> Great, I want to play. I'll be online and available via
>> Skype/phone/IRC/smoke-signals/whatever bright and early (I think that's
>> 0730 in NY time)...
>
> Have you guys started yet? I'm on the pharo IRC channel and can Skype if
> necessary...
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/tuesday-we-will-do-a-coding-sprint-here-at-Santiago-tp4665536p4666139.html
> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

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