ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

> Hi -
>
> I've recently installed Pharo 1.4 & 2.0 on a laptop I upgraded to Ubuntu
> 13.04 and using both Eliot's vm for Pharo 1.4 and the pharovm from the
> Ubuntu PPA.  The UI is incredibly slow with it sometimes taking 1 second
> to switch windows when they are clicked or > 8 seconds to find the
> senders/implementors of a method.  Is there something I can check to see
> what the problem may be?
>
> cat /proc/cpuinfo shows that the CPU is running at the high frequency.
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul

> Hi Damien,
>
>
> Because of the attached Message Tally outputs I don't think the problem
> is specific to changes I've made to an image.  I also don't think that
> there is much differnece between Eliots vm or the pharo ppa vm.  The
> Message Tally outputs are from profiling the UI while finding the
> senders of #setUp using various VM & image combinations.    On squeak
> finding the senders of #setUp seems instantaneous.    On Pharo it takes
> multiple seconds to find and display the senders.

> Is the result from the pharo ppa vm + pharo 2 image similar to what
> you're seeing on the 32bit Ubuntu?
>
> Thanks for looking into this.   For what its worth I'm using a 5 yr old
> Dell D630 laptop with an 3GB of ram and a 120 GB SSD.  I've also
> attached the output from /proc/cpuinfo
>
> Please let me know if there are other things I should check.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 06/06/2013 12:31 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:52 PM, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> I've recently installed Pharo 1.4 & 2.0 on a laptop I upgraded to Ubuntu
>>> 13.04 and using both Eliot's vm for Pharo 1.4 and the pharovm from the
>>> Ubuntu PPA.  The UI is incredibly slow with it sometimes taking 1 second
>>> to switch windows when they are clicked or > 8 seconds to find the
>>> senders/implementors of a method.  Is there something I can check to see
>>> what the problem may be?
>>>
>>> cat /proc/cpuinfo shows that the CPU is running at the high frequency.
>>
>>
>> I'm also using 13.04 (but mine is 32bits). I can *not* reproduce your
>> problem with the VM on the PPA. Just to be sure, I sent new versions
>> of the packages to the https://launchpad.net/~pharo/+archive/stable/
>> PPA this morning. They will be ready in a few hours.
>>
>> Is there anything special with your image?
>>
>> --
>> Damien Cassou
>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
>>
>> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without
>> losing enthusiasm."
>> Winston Churchill
>>
>
> <cpuinfo.txt><pharo-ppa-vm-pharo-1.4><squeak-4.4-all-in-one><eliots-vm-my-1.4-image><pharo-ppa-vm-pharo-2.txt><pharo-ppa-vm-my-1.4-image>

> Hi Damien,
>
>
> Because of the attached Message Tally outputs I don't think the problem
> is specific to changes I've made to an image.  I also don't think that
> there is much differnece between Eliots vm or the pharo ppa vm.  The
> Message Tally outputs are from profiling the UI while finding the
> senders of #setUp using various VM & image combinations.    On squeak
> finding the senders of #setUp seems instantaneous.    On Pharo it takes
> multiple seconds to find and display the senders.
>

>
> On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Damien,
>>
>>
>> Because of the attached Message Tally outputs I don't think the problem
>> is specific to changes I've made to an image.  I also don't think that
>> there is much differnece between Eliots vm or the pharo ppa vm.  The
>> Message Tally outputs are from profiling the UI while finding the
>> senders of #setUp using various VM & image combinations.    On squeak
>> finding the senders of #setUp seems instantaneous.    On Pharo it takes
>> multiple seconds to find and display the senders.
>>
>
> This is really strange… here even doing "senders of" for all the >6000 senders
> of ifTrue: is quite fast for 2.0 and even faster in 3.0.
>
> So I really wonder what the problem is...
>
> Marcus

>
> On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Damien,
>>
>>
>> Because of the attached Message Tally outputs I don't think the problem
>> is specific to changes I've made to an image.  I also don't think that
>> there is much differnece between Eliots vm or the pharo ppa vm.  The
>> Message Tally outputs are from profiling the UI while finding the
>> senders of #setUp using various VM & image combinations.    On squeak
>> finding the senders of #setUp seems instantaneous.    On Pharo it takes
>> multiple seconds to find and display the senders.
>>
>
> This is really strange… here even doing "senders of" for all the >6000 senders
> of ifTrue: is quite fast for 2.0 and even faster in 3.0.
>
> So I really wonder what the problem is...

> could we get the image so that we can try?
>
> Stef
>
> On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Damien,
>>>
>>>
>>>    Because of the attached Message Tally outputs I don't think the problem
>>> is specific to changes I've made to an image.  I also don't think that
>>> there is much differnece between Eliots vm or the pharo ppa vm.  The
>>> Message Tally outputs are from profiling the UI while finding the
>>> senders of #setUp using various VM & image combinations.    On squeak
>>> finding the senders of #setUp seems instantaneous.    On Pharo it takes
>>> multiple seconds to find and display the senders.
>>>
>>
>> This is really strange… here even doing "senders of" for all the >6000 senders
>> of ifTrue: is quite fast for 2.0 and even faster in 3.0.
>>
>> So I really wonder what the problem is...
>>
>>    Marcus
>
>

> On 06/06/2013 11:27 PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Damien,
>>>
>>>
>>> Because of the attached Message Tally outputs I don't think the problem
>>> is specific to changes I've made to an image.  I also don't think that
>>> there is much differnece between Eliots vm or the pharo ppa vm.  The
>>> Message Tally outputs are from profiling the UI while finding the
>>> senders of #setUp using various VM & image combinations.    On squeak
>>> finding the senders of #setUp seems instantaneous.    On Pharo it takes
>>> multiple seconds to find and display the senders.
>>>
>>
>> This is really strange… here even doing "senders of" for all the >6000 senders
>> of ifTrue: is quite fast for 2.0 and even faster in 3.0.
>>
>> So I really wonder what the problem is...
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>
> <pharo-vm-pharo-20606-ifTrue-twice.txt>

>
> On 2013-06-07, at 16:03, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> For the attached profile I downloaded a new pharo 20606 image and ran
>>> the search for senders of #ifTrue: twice.  It shows that it took 17
>>> seconds on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit.  How long does it take on your machine?
>
> On my virtualbox ubuntu 13.04
>
> [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun == 1052
>
> :/
>

>
>
> Le 07/06/2013 16:00, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
>>
>> On 07 Jun 2013, at 15:44, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> For the attached profile I downloaded a new pharo 20606 image and ran
>>> the search for senders of #ifTrue: twice.  It shows that it took 17
>>> seconds on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit.  How long does it take on your machine?
>>
>> [ SystemNavigation new allSendersOf: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun   =>>  258
>> "milliseconds"
>
> 20606, Ubuntu 13.04 64bits, Core i3-2350M CPU @ 2.30GHz
> [ SystemNavigation new allSendersOf: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun =>> [292, 330] ms
>
> Thierry

> Sounds like I need some new hardware then?
>
>
>
>
> On 06/07/2013 07:16 AM, Goubier Thierry wrote:
>>
>>
>> Le 07/06/2013 16:00, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
>>>
>>> On 07 Jun 2013, at 15:44, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For the attached profile I downloaded a new pharo 20606 image and ran
>>>> the search for senders of #ifTrue: twice.  It shows that it took 17
>>>> seconds on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit.  How long does it take on your machine?
>>>
>>> [ SystemNavigation new allSendersOf: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun   =>>  258
>>> "milliseconds"
>>
>> 20606, Ubuntu 13.04 64bits, Core i3-2350M CPU @ 2.30GHz
>> [ SystemNavigation new allSendersOf: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun =>> [292, 330] ms
>>
>> Thierry
>
>
>
>

> I'll check with some older hardware; I have something slower than yours,
> but I'll have the results later tonight.
>
> Thierry
>
> Le 07/06/2013 17:04, Paul DeBruicker a écrit :
>> Sounds like I need some new hardware then?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 06/07/2013 07:16 AM, Goubier Thierry wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 07/06/2013 16:00, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> On 07 Jun 2013, at 15:44, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For the attached profile I downloaded a new pharo 20606 image and ran
>>>>> the search for senders of #ifTrue: twice.  It shows that it took 17
>>>>> seconds on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit.  How long does it take on your machine?
>>>>
>>>> [ SystemNavigation new allSendersOf: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun   =>>  258
>>>> "milliseconds"
>>>
>>> 20606, Ubuntu 13.04 64bits, Core i3-2350M CPU @ 2.30GHz
>>> [ SystemNavigation new allSendersOf: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun =>> [292,
>>> 330] ms
>>>
>>> Thierry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

>
> On Jun 7, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> My laptop is:
>>
>> [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun 1518
>>
>>
> (3.0):
> [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun 117
>
> I have a slow machine: 1.8Ghz Core i5 in a MacBook Air.
> It auto-overclocks to 2.8 Ghz when not using two cores.
>
> It's supposed to be not a fast system, as far as I understood.
>
> Marcus
>
>