using athens fonts is dead slow in roassal
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Try this: [view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape label fontSize: [:x | x ]. view nodes: (10 to: 100). view open] timeToRun On my MacBookPro i7 2.6 GHz this takes 23s. The actual reason is that LogicalFont>>widthOfString: looks up the real font when the font is not yet cached. And this ends up looking for files on the disk.
I do not know an easy way out, but as it is, we cannot use font scaling essentially. And because of that, visualizations like Annotation Constellation are not practicable anymore:
Cheers, Doru "Every thing has its own flow"
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Igor is working out on textEditor with fernando and they are making progress.
I know that igor want to build a cache for fonts and that now he changed the API of Cairo because the previous one was making approximations that led to problems when zooming (and then to identify character under the mouse). Now I do not know how and if it will have an impact (probably on this one). One objectives is also to see how to reuse some of the morphs made on top of Rubric (but not rubric because it is based on the old and bad paragraph editor). Stef
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On Windows 7 this comes up instantaneously. Freshly downloaded Moose 48 image and Pharo 20 vm. cheers, Ben Tudor Girba wrote: Hi, Try this: [view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape label fontSize: [:x | x ]. view nodes: (10 to: 100). view open] timeToRun On my MacBookPro i7 2.6 GHz this takes 23s. The actual reason is that LogicalFont>>widthOfString: looks up the real font when the font is not yet cached. And this ends up looking for files on the disk. I do not know an easy way out, but as it is, we cannot use font scaling essentially. And because of that, visualizations like Annotation Constellation are not practicable anymore: http://www.themoosebook.org/book/externals/visualizations/annotation-constellation Cheers, Doru _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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I forgot to mention that you have to install Athens first before executing the example: MooseImageSetupCommandLineHandler new installFonts;
installAthens Cheers, Doru On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 1:14 AM, Ben Coman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Indeed, the issue we have is related to real font caching. It would be great to get a working solution for this. I guess this will not be available in Pharo 2.0 (it would make sense to focus on Pharo 3.0), but maybe we can get some hints as to how to build a little workaround.
I would like to release the Moose 4.8 image with Athens enabled, but I am not sure it's a good idea with this little issue inside. Doru On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
"Every thing has its own flow"
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Here is more information about the problem: as said, the issue comes from widthOfString:. So, I tested the basic infrastructure: [10 to: 100 do: [ :x | (LogicalFont familyName: 'Arial' pointSize: x)
widthOfString: 'test' ]] timeToRun This one gets ==> 5s So, where are the rest of the 20s being spent in Roassal? Essentially, given that Roassal will get a new logical font instance every time it tries to display, it essentially slows down everything in the image when multiple fonts are displayed.
I think we should find a way to cache the logical fonts in ROFontOrganizerAthens, or at least to provide the ability to set the font from outside in ROAbstractLabel (rather than just provide the font size).
Cheers, Doru
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
"Every thing has its own flow"
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[|view| view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape label fontSize: [:x | x ]. view nodes: (10 to: 100). view open] timeToRun ---> 4767 msec By cheating... LogicalFont>>height ^200 LogicalFont>>width ^200 then timeToRun ---> 45msec. With... LogicalFont>>height self realFont "height". ^200. then timeToRun ---> 1929msec. If I revert the changes above and then do... LogicalFont>>realFont "Smalltalk at: #btcHack put: Bag new" ^realFont ifNil: [ (Smalltalk at: #btcHack) add: #count. realFont := self findRealFont] ^ then timeToRun --> 4076 and (Smalltalk at: #btcHack) occurrencesOf: #count ---> 587 times it runs #findRealFont. This might not be the proper place to do caching, but if change this to... LogicalFont>>realFont | cache | cache := Smalltalk at: #btcHack2 ifAbsentPut: Dictionary new. ^realFont ifNil: [ cache at: self printString ifAbsentPut: [ self findRealFont ] ] then timeToRun --> 1482msec. cheers, Ben Tudor Girba wrote: Here is more information about the problem: as said, the issue comes from widthOfString:. So, I tested the basic infrastructure: [10 to: 100 do: [ :x | (LogicalFont familyName: 'Arial' pointSize: x) widthOfString: 'test' ]] timeToRun This one gets ==> 5s So, where are the rest of the 20s being spent in Roassal? Essentially, given that Roassal will get a new logical font instance every time it tries to display, it essentially slows down everything in the image when multiple fonts are displayed. I think we should find a way to cache the logical fonts in ROFontOrganizerAthens, or at least to provide the ability to set the font from outside in ROAbstractLabel (rather than just provide the font size). Cheers, Doru On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Tudor Girba [hidden email] wrote:Indeed, the issue we have is related to real font caching. It would be great to get a working solution for this. I guess this will not be available in Pharo 2.0 (it would make sense to focus on Pharo 3.0), but maybe we can get some hints as to how to build a little workaround. I would like to release the Moose 4.8 image with Athens enabled, but I am not sure it's a good idea with this little issue inside. Doru On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < [hidden email]> wrote:Igor is working out on textEditor with fernando and they are making progress. I know that igor want to build a cache for fonts and that now he changed the API of Cairo because the previous one was making approximations that led to problems when zooming (and then to identify character under the mouse). Now I do not know how and if it will have an impact (probably on this one). One objectives is also to see how to reuse some of the morphs made on top of Rubric (but not rubric because it is based on the old and bad paragraph editor). Stef Hi, Try this: [view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape label fontSize: [:x | x ]. view nodes: (10 to: 100). view open] timeToRun On my MacBookPro i7 2.6 GHz this takes 23s. The actual reason is that LogicalFont>>widthOfString: looks up the real font when the font is not yet cached. And this ends up looking for files on the disk. I do not know an easy way out, but as it is, we cannot use font scaling essentially. And because of that, visualizations like Annotation Constellation are not practicable anymore: http://www.themoosebook.org/book/externals/visualizations/annotation-constellation Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow" _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow" _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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I came up with a solution that remains within the bounds of Roassal: cache the font in ROAbstractLabel. See more details here: Cheers, Doru On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Ben Coman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> After loading Athens, then > [|view| > view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. > view shape label fontSize: [:x | x ]. > view nodes: (10 to: 100). > view open] > > timeToRun ---> 4767 msec > > By cheating... > LogicalFont>>height > ^200 > LogicalFont>>width > ^200 > > then timeToRun ---> 45msec. > > With... > LogicalFont>>height > self realFont "height". > ^200. > > then timeToRun ---> 1929msec. > > If I revert the changes above and then do... > LogicalFont>>realFont > "Smalltalk at: #btcHack put: Bag new" > ^realFont ifNil: [ > (Smalltalk at: #btcHack) add: #count. > realFont := self findRealFont] ^ > > then timeToRun --> 4076 > and (Smalltalk at: #btcHack) occurrencesOf: #count ---> 587 times it runs > #findRealFont. > > This might not be the proper place to do caching, but if change this to... > LogicalFont>>realFont > | cache | > cache := Smalltalk at: #btcHack2 ifAbsentPut: Dictionary new. > ^realFont ifNil: [ cache at: self printString ifAbsentPut: [ self > findRealFont ] ] > > then timeToRun --> 1482msec. > Oh! my! unexpected benefit.... subsequent execution have timeToRun ---> 65msec. > cheers, Ben > > > Tudor Girba wrote: > > Here is more information about the problem: as said, the issue comes from > > widthOfString:. So, I tested the basic infrastructure: > > > > [10 to: 100 do: [ :x | > > (LogicalFont familyName: 'Arial' pointSize: x) > > widthOfString: 'test' ]] timeToRun > > > > This one gets ==> 5s > > > > So, where are the rest of the 20s being spent in Roassal? Essentially, > > given that Roassal will get a new logical font instance every time it tries > > to display, it essentially slows down everything in the image when multiple > > fonts are displayed. > > > > I think we should find a way to cache the logical fonts in > > ROFontOrganizerAthens, or at least to provide the ability to set the font > > from outside in ROAbstractLabel (rather than just provide the font size). > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > >> Indeed, the issue we have is related to real font caching. It would be > >> great to get a working solution for this. I guess this will not be > >> available in Pharo 2.0 (it would make sense to focus on Pharo 3.0), but > >> maybe we can get some hints as to how to build a little workaround. > >> > >> I would like to release the Moose 4.8 image with Athens enabled, but I am > >> not sure it's a good idea with this little issue inside. > >> > >> Doru > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < > >> [hidden email]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Igor is working out on textEditor with fernando and they are making > >>> progress. > >>> I know that igor want to build a cache for fonts and that now he changed > >>> the API of Cairo because the previous one was making approximations that > >>> led to > >>> problems when zooming (and then to identify character under the mouse). > >>> Now I do not know how and if it will have an impact (probably on this > >>> one). > >>> One objectives is also to see how to reuse some of the morphs made on top > >>> of Rubric (but not rubric because it is based on the old and bad paragraph > >>> editor). > >>> > >>> Stef > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> Try this: > >>> [view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. > >>> view shape label fontSize: [:x | x ]. > >>> view nodes: (10 to: 100). > >>> view open] timeToRun > >>> > >>> On my MacBookPro i7 2.6 GHz this takes 23s. > >>> > >>> The actual reason is that LogicalFont>>widthOfString: looks up the real > >>> font when the font is not yet cached. And this ends up looking for files on > >>> the disk. > >>> > >>> I do not know an easy way out, but as it is, we cannot use font scaling > >>> essentially. And because of that, visualizations like Annotation > >>> Constellation are not practicable anymore: > >>> > >>> http://www.themoosebook.org/book/externals/visualizations/annotation-constellation > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Doru > >>> > >>> -- > >>> www.tudorgirba.com > >>> > >>> "Every thing has its own flow" > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Moose-dev mailing list > >>> [hidden email] > >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Moose-dev mailing list > >>> [hidden email] > >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> -- > >> www.tudorgirba.com > >> > >> "Every thing has its own flow" > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Moose-dev mailing list > > [hidden email] > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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Hi Ben!
Thanks for your experiment. So, what is your conclusion? Can you provide a fix ? Alexandre On Aug 24, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Ben Coman <[hidden email]> wrote: > After loading Athens, then > [|view| > view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. > view shape label fontSize: [:x | x ]. > view nodes: (10 to: 100). > view open] > > timeToRun ---> 4767 msec > > By cheating... > LogicalFont>>height > ^200 > LogicalFont>>width > ^200 > > then timeToRun ---> 45msec. > > With... > LogicalFont>>height > self realFont "height". > ^200. > > then timeToRun ---> 1929msec. > > If I revert the changes above and then do... > LogicalFont>>realFont > "Smalltalk at: #btcHack put: Bag new" > ^realFont ifNil: [ > (Smalltalk at: #btcHack) add: #count. > realFont := self findRealFont] ^ > > then timeToRun --> 4076 > and (Smalltalk at: #btcHack) occurrencesOf: #count ---> 587 times it runs #findRealFont. > > This might not be the proper place to do caching, but if change this to... > LogicalFont>>realFont > | cache | > cache := Smalltalk at: #btcHack2 ifAbsentPut: Dictionary new. > ^realFont ifNil: [ cache at: self printString ifAbsentPut: [ self findRealFont ] ] > > then timeToRun --> 1482msec. > > cheers, Ben > > > Tudor Girba wrote: >> Here is more information about the problem: as said, the issue comes from >> widthOfString:. So, I tested the basic infrastructure: >> >> [10 to: 100 do: [ :x | >> (LogicalFont familyName: 'Arial' pointSize: x) >> widthOfString: 'test' ]] timeToRun >> >> This one gets ==> 5s >> >> So, where are the rest of the 20s being spent in Roassal? Essentially, >> given that Roassal will get a new logical font instance every time it tries >> to display, it essentially slows down everything in the image when multiple >> fonts are displayed. >> >> I think we should find a way to cache the logical fonts in >> ROFontOrganizerAthens, or at least to provide the ability to set the font >> from outside in ROAbstractLabel (rather than just provide the font size). >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Tudor Girba >> <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Indeed, the issue we have is related to real font caching. It would be >>> great to get a working solution for this. I guess this will not be >>> available in Pharo 2.0 (it would make sense to focus on Pharo 3.0), but >>> maybe we can get some hints as to how to build a little workaround. >>> >>> I would like to release the Moose 4.8 image with Athens enabled, but I am >>> not sure it's a good idea with this little issue inside. >>> >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Stéphane Ducasse < >>> >>> [hidden email] >>> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Igor is working out on textEditor with fernando and they are making >>>> progress. >>>> I know that igor want to build a cache for fonts and that now he changed >>>> the API of Cairo because the previous one was making approximations that >>>> led to >>>> problems when zooming (and then to identify character under the mouse). >>>> Now I do not know how and if it will have an impact (probably on this >>>> one). >>>> One objectives is also to see how to reuse some of the morphs made on top >>>> of Rubric (but not rubric because it is based on the old and bad paragraph >>>> editor). >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Try this: >>>> [view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. >>>> view shape label fontSize: [:x | x ]. >>>> view nodes: (10 to: 100). >>>> view open] timeToRun >>>> >>>> On my MacBookPro i7 2.6 GHz this takes 23s. >>>> >>>> The actual reason is that LogicalFont>>widthOfString: looks up the real >>>> font when the font is not yet cached. And this ends up looking for files on >>>> the disk. >>>> >>>> I do not know an easy way out, but as it is, we cannot use font scaling >>>> essentially. And because of that, visualizations like Annotation >>>> Constellation are not practicable anymore: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.themoosebook.org/book/externals/visualizations/annotation-constellation >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> >>>> "Every thing has its own flow" >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> >>> "Every thing has its own flow" >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
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I already committed a fix. Look at the details in: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi Ben! "Every thing has its own flow"
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