[vw7.3.1] -- just noticed that standard parcels are loading classes into the Smalltalk namespace rather than some more specific namespace...

I inspected the Smalltalk namespace and found all kinds of entries that
surprised me.

For example, I found ScaledRandom, a class loaded by the AT Profiling
Core parcel.

Shouldn't the standard parcels put classes into more private namespaces?

The Postgres parcels also add lots of classes to the Smalltalk
namespace.

[hidden email] wrote:
Ideally Smalltalk should only contain Namespaces, but in the interest of
backward compatibility (and regularity of the namespace model of course)
classes can be 'dumped' there too.

So I guess what you are seeing is a legacy style of packaging that still
hasn't molten away...



I don't know what to do about it other than shaming people into fixing
it - or doing that yourself.

R
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On 14/03/07, Reinout Heeck <[hidden email]> wrote:
> [hidden email] wrote:
> > The Postgres parcels also add lots of classes to the Smalltalk
> > namespace.

This is because the PostgreSQL library runs in more than just
VisualWorks and other Smalltalk dialects don't have namespaces.

> So I guess what you are seeing is a legacy style of packaging that still
> hasn't molten away...

Which is very unlikely to happen until there is a Smalltalk standard
for namespaces.

I do like the idea of namespaces,  I wish very much that the Smalltalk
authors and vendors could get together to agree a standard ... but I
won't hold my breath.  In the meantime, all my classes go in Smalltalk
in all dialects.

All the best,
    Bruce
--
Make the most of your skills - with OpenSkills
http://www.openskills.org/

Oh, and by the way...

Thank you for making the Postgres parcels.  They work great for me!

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Badger [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 7:36 AM
To: Reinout Heeck
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [vw7.3.1] -- just noticed that standard parcels are loading
classes into the Smalltalk namespace rather than some more specific
namespace...


On 14/03/07, Reinout Heeck <[hidden email]> wrote:
> [hidden email] wrote:
> > The Postgres parcels also add lots of classes to the Smalltalk
> > namespace.

This is because the PostgreSQL library runs in more than just
VisualWorks and other Smalltalk dialects don't have namespaces.

> So I guess what you are seeing is a legacy style of packaging that
still
> hasn't molten away...

Which is very unlikely to happen until there is a Smalltalk standard
for namespaces.

I do like the idea of namespaces,  I wish very much that the Smalltalk
authors and vendors could get together to agree a standard ... but I
won't hold my breath.  In the meantime, all my classes go in Smalltalk
in all dialects.

All the best,
    Bruce
--
Make the most of your skills - with OpenSkills
http://www.openskills.org/