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[vwnc] Anybody seen lockups like these?

Paul Baumann
vwnt.exe (VW 7.6 VM) jumped to using 100% of one CPU core and could not be interrupted. No memory growth. I'd only clicked in a code browser window (perhaps involving a store query). Process Explorer stack information for vwnt.exe showed this:
 
ntkrnlpa.exe+0x6e9ab
ntkrnlpa.exe!MmIsDriverVerifying+0xbb0
hal.dll+0x2ef2
vwntoe.dll!registerInRt+0x2fb54
Google searches suggest a driver problem. Not sure which driver or why now, but I'm glad my work was saved first.
 
Paul Baumann 
 
 
 


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Re: [vwnc] Anybody seen lockups like these?

Andres Valloud-6
Was this a perm saved image, by any chance?


From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Paul Baumann
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Subject: [vwnc] Anybody seen lockups like these?

vwnt.exe (VW 7.6 VM) jumped to using 100% of one CPU core and could not be interrupted. No memory growth. I'd only clicked in a code browser window (perhaps involving a store query). Process Explorer stack information for vwnt.exe showed this:
 
ntkrnlpa.exe+0x6e9ab
ntkrnlpa.exe!MmIsDriverVerifying+0xbb0
hal.dll+0x2ef2
vwntoe.dll!registerInRt+0x2fb54
Google searches suggest a driver problem. Not sure which driver or why now, but I'm glad my work was saved first.
 
Paul Baumann 
 
 
 


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Re: [vwnc] Anybody seen lockups like these?

Dennis smith-4
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Any chance you were running on a multi-cpu  VM-ware (or Xen) system?

We had a problem like this with XEN that seemed related to clocks differing significantly
from CPU to CPU and we had to use the affinity controls to keep the VW image on one CPU.

Paul Baumann wrote:
vwnt.exe (VW 7.6 VM) jumped to using 100% of one CPU core and could not be interrupted. No memory growth. I'd only clicked in a code browser window (perhaps involving a store query). Process Explorer stack information for vwnt.exe showed this:
 
ntkrnlpa.exe+0x6e9ab
ntkrnlpa.exe!MmIsDriverVerifying+0xbb0
hal.dll+0x2ef2
vwntoe.dll!registerInRt+0x2fb54
Google searches suggest a driver problem. Not sure which driver or why now, but I'm glad my work was saved first.
 
Paul Baumann 
 
 
 


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Re: [vwnc] Anybody seen lockups like these?

Andres Valloud-6
I would be very interested in any information related to VM misbehavior controlled by core / cpu affinity.  With that said, I'd suggest trying a 7.6c or later VM.
 
Andres.


From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dennis Smith
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 4:46 PM
To: Paul Baumann
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [vwnc] Anybody seen lockups like these?

Any chance you were running on a multi-cpu  VM-ware (or Xen) system?

We had a problem like this with XEN that seemed related to clocks differing significantly
from CPU to CPU and we had to use the affinity controls to keep the VW image on one CPU.

Paul Baumann wrote:
vwnt.exe (VW 7.6 VM) jumped to using 100% of one CPU core and could not be interrupted. No memory growth. I'd only clicked in a code browser window (perhaps involving a store query). Process Explorer stack information for vwnt.exe showed this:
 
ntkrnlpa.exe+0x6e9ab
ntkrnlpa.exe!MmIsDriverVerifying+0xbb0
hal.dll+0x2ef2
vwntoe.dll!registerInRt+0x2fb54
Google searches suggest a driver problem. Not sure which driver or why now, but I'm glad my work was saved first.
 
Paul Baumann 
 
 
 


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Re: [vwnc] Anybody seen lockups like these?

Paul Baumann
Sorry, I just double checked the VM version and found I'd been running 7.5 Apr 16 2007 VM on this box for at least a year now. I thought I'd been using the 7.6 Feb 14 2008 VM used elsewhere. It was the 7.5 VM that locked on me yesterday. No, no VM technology involved in this configuration.
 
The clock diff and affinity issues bring back memories. One of those issues had been complicating some very deep debugging I was doing last year. I tried going back to 7.5 VM on this box and I never configured back to 7.6 even after the presumed 7.6c fix.
 
Dennis,
 
Back in Feb'08 I found that assigning affinity fixed VW performance issues that only seemed to happen on Intel hyper-threading processors. I wonder if both are related to the same problem. Slow down waiting for an exaggerated future time value; freeze waiting for a past time value. The common factor being time reporting variances between HT core switches. VM technology (like VMWare or Xen) might be a another variation of the same time-diff problem even if not on a HT processor. In any case, it looks like Andres thinks the problem should be fixed in 7.6c or later VM.
 
Paul Baumann 
 


From: Valloud, Andres [mailto:[hidden email]]
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I would be very interested in any information related to VM misbehavior controlled by core / cpu affinity.  With that said, I'd suggest trying a 7.6c or later VM.
 
Andres.


From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dennis Smith
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 4:46 PM
To: Paul Baumann
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [vwnc] Anybody seen lockups like these?

Any chance you were running on a multi-cpu  VM-ware (or Xen) system?

We had a problem like this with XEN that seemed related to clocks differing significantly
from CPU to CPU and we had to use the affinity controls to keep the VW image on one CPU.

Paul Baumann wrote:
vwnt.exe (VW 7.6 VM) jumped to using 100% of one CPU core and could not be interrupted. No memory growth. I'd only clicked in a code browser window (perhaps involving a store query). Process Explorer stack information for vwnt.exe showed this:
 
ntkrnlpa.exe+0x6e9ab
ntkrnlpa.exe!MmIsDriverVerifying+0xbb0
hal.dll+0x2ef2
vwntoe.dll!registerInRt+0x2fb54
Google searches suggest a driver problem. Not sure which driver or why now, but I'm glad my work was saved first.
 
Paul Baumann 
 
 


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