Can you share experiences or maybe even some screen shots ?
Any information on the subject is greatly appreciated? Many thanks, --Mark _______________________________________________ vwnc mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc |
We did a prototype for address information only in VW7.6. That is, we had a limited purpose and did not attempt this for every text field. It affected only a very limited number of domain objects, I believe exclusively in our Geography hierarchy (such as office locations in native language). We could handle English, Simplified and Traditional Chinese, and Japanese, but had enough flexibility in the long-term design to handle anything in Unicode (so we could do locale-based input methods).
The only way to describe our "prototype" was a bastardization. I wouldn't even classify it as a hybrid. We got it to work, but it was really messy. VW7.7 should have considerably better support, but unfortunately the guru who did this no longer is with us, so I have no clue how much would need to change. I don't even know where his image is that allows you to select the language and get the appropriate IME; I do know that he had to work on the underlying widgets. I just remember that it worked, to everyone's surprise. Cheers! Tom Hawker -------------------------- Senior Framework Developer -------------------------- Home +1 (408) 274-4128 Office +1 (408) 576-6591 Mobile +1 (408) 835-3643 -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mark Pirogovsky Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 10:45 AM To: VWNC List Subject: [vwnc] Does anybody have an Experience running VW in Chinese language ? Can you share experiences or maybe even some screen shots ? Any information on the subject is greatly appreciated? Many thanks, --Mark _______________________________________________ vwnc mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc IMPORTANT NOTICE Email from OOCL is confidential and may be legally privileged. If it is not intended for you, please delete it immediately unread. The internet cannot guarantee that this communication is free of viruses, interception or interference and anyone who communicates with us by email is taken to accept the risks in doing so. Without limitation, OOCL and its affiliates accept no liability whatsoever and howsoever arising in connection with the use of this email. Under no circumstances shall this email constitute a binding agreement to carry or for provision of carriage services by OOCL, which is subject to the availability of carrier's equipment and vessels and the terms and conditions of OOCL's standard bill of lading which is also available at http://www.oocl.com. _______________________________________________ vwnc mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc |
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On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Mark Pirogovsky <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Can you share experiences or maybe even some screen shots ? > > Any information on the subject is greatly appreciated? > > Many thanks, > > --Mark > > > > _______________________________________________ > vwnc mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc > I'm a native Chinese Smalltalk amateur and I program in Chinese (mixed with English) for fun using VWNC 7.5/7.6. Normally I use Chinese for almost all my own code and English for reusing lib code. Now waiting for 7.7. I also used ObjectStudio years ago. (And Io. Smalltalk has five preserved words while Io has none. Io has better native Unicode support). I don't know what you're interesting to hearing about. VW 7.6 has some problem in copy/paste dealing with Unicode and auto-completing doesn't work in Chinese since one line of code somewhere checking whether the text is Smalltalk code would expect ASCII characters. When reading / writing files, Chinese filename will fail. Windows title using Chinese will not display well re-openning an image after it gets saved and closed. That's all I can recall now. In short it works for me, not too bad :) Here is a screen-shot. Best Regards, Jim G _______________________________________________ vwnc mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc vwincn.png (101K) Download Attachment |
Experiences with VisualWorks 7.7 should be better. I understand the NC version is due for release very soon (I believe the commercial version is already out).
Both Unicode and Locale support are much enhanced, not just for Chinese but for several other languages/territories and character sets. (Make sure you have appropriate fonts on hand for your language of choice, especially if it uses a non-Roman character set.)
Les Kooyman
Cincom From: [hidden email] on behalf of J G Sent: Fri 1/8/2010 9:20 PM To: Mark Pirogovsky Cc: VWNC List Subject: Re: [vwnc] Does anybody have an Experience running VW in Chineselanguage ? On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Mark Pirogovsky <[hidden email]> wrote: _______________________________________________ vwnc mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc |
After using vwnc7.7 for over a month I am impressed by the great
improvement VW has made and all previous bugs now have gone. It's the best IDE I've ever seen for native language programming. Thanks a lot. If it's not VWNC I can't do anything I have done in my part time, freely express myself and define my objects in my native Chinese language. It's stable, and highly qualified and always a source for discovering the spirit of Smalltalk and programming in general. When I made a decision ten years ago on which languages to choose, I thought Smalltalk could be my only lifetime language even when very old in future. That's a right decision I believe after years of using it. Now with best Chinese support I'm thinking if I can find time to start a small project related to Buddhism. Hope more and more people will get to know (yes it's so important to let people know ) and use your great product. Best Regards, J G On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Kooyman, Les <[hidden email]> wrote: > Experiences with VisualWorks 7.7 should be better. I understand the NC > version is due for release very soon (I believe the commercial version is > already out). > > Both Unicode and Locale support are much enhanced, not just for Chinese but > for several other languages/territories and character sets. (Make sure you > have appropriate fonts on hand for your language of choice, especially if it > uses a non-Roman character set.) > > Les Kooyman > Cincom > ________________________________ > From: [hidden email] on behalf of J G > Sent: Fri 1/8/2010 9:20 PM > To: Mark Pirogovsky > Cc: VWNC List > Subject: Re: [vwnc] Does anybody have an Experience running VW in > Chineselanguage ? > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Mark Pirogovsky <[hidden email]> > wrote: >> Can you share experiences or maybe even some screen shots ? >> >> Any information on the subject is greatly appreciated? >> >> Many thanks, >> >> --Mark >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> vwnc mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc >> > Hi, > > I'm a native Chinese Smalltalk amateur and I program in Chinese (mixed > with English) for fun using VWNC 7.5/7.6. Normally I use Chinese for > almost all my own code and English for reusing lib code. Now waiting > for 7.7. > I also used ObjectStudio years ago. (And Io. Smalltalk has five > preserved words while Io has none. Io has better native Unicode > support). > I don't know what you're interesting to hearing about. > VW 7.6 has some problem in copy/paste dealing with Unicode and > auto-completing doesn't work in Chinese since one line of code > somewhere checking whether the text is Smalltalk code would expect > ASCII characters. When reading / writing files, Chinese filename will > fail. Windows title using Chinese will not display well re-openning an > image after it gets saved and closed. That's all I can recall now. In > short it works for me, not too bad :) > > Here is a screen-shot. > > > Best Regards, > > Jim G > -- Best Regards, Jim G _______________________________________________ vwnc mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc |
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