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jtuchel

[vwnc] Gartner and Smalltalk::expired link

Hi there,

James put up an interesting post about Gartner having changed their
minds about Smalltalk. His blogpost cam be found here:
http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Gartner_is_no_longer_kicking_Smalltalk&entry=3390819360

Unfortunately, while I remember having read the document he linked to, I
just came back just to see that the document is no longer online, at
least at this address.

Does anybody know if that document is available online? I suspect it's
unlikely because Gartner wants to sell such papers...

I just recently promised to somebody that I'd send them a link....

Kind regards

Joachim

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Steven Kelly

Re: [vwnc] Gartner and Smalltalk::expired link

Found with a Google search on:
cache:http://mediaproducts.gartner.com/reprints/microfocus/151340.html

Another option (that doesn't work here) for any <URL> is:
http://web.archive.org/*/<URL>

Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On
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> Subject: [vwnc] Gartner and Smalltalk::expired link
>
> Hi there,
>
> James put up an interesting post about Gartner having changed their
> minds about Smalltalk. His blogpost cam be found here:
>

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&printTit

> le=Gartner_is_no_longer_kicking_Smalltalk&entry=3390819360
>
> Unfortunately, while I remember having read the document he linked to,
> I
> just came back just to see that the document is no longer online, at
> least at this address.
>
> Does anybody know if that document is available online? I suspect it's
> unlikely because Gartner wants to sell such papers...
>
> I just recently promised to somebody that I'd send them a link....
>
> Kind regards
>
> Joachim
>
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jtuchel

Re: [vwnc] Gartner and Smalltalk::expired link

Steven,

thanks. I had forgotten about the google cache, and had had no luck with
web archive as well.

cu

Joachim

Steven Kelly schrieb:

> Found with a Google search on:
> cache:http://mediaproducts.gartner.com/reprints/microfocus/151340.html
>
> Another option (that doesn't work here) for any <URL> is:
> http://web.archive.org/*/<URL>
>
> Steve
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On
>> Behalf Of Joachim Tuchel
>> Sent: 18 September 2008 00:14
>> To: VW NC
>> Subject: [vwnc] Gartner and Smalltalk::expired link
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> James put up an interesting post about Gartner having changed their
>> minds about Smalltalk. His blogpost cam be found here:
>>
> http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&printTit
>> le=Gartner_is_no_longer_kicking_Smalltalk&entry=3390819360
>>
>> Unfortunately, while I remember having read the document he linked to,
>> I
>> just came back just to see that the document is no longer online, at
>> least at this address.
>>
>> Does anybody know if that document is available online? I suspect it's
>> unlikely because Gartner wants to sell such papers...
>>
>> I just recently promised to somebody that I'd send them a link....
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Joachim
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> vwnc mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc

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Cesar Rabak

Re: [vwnc] Gartner and Smalltalk::expired link

In reply to this post by Steven Kelly

Steven Kelly escreveu:
> Found with a Google search on:
> cache:http://mediaproducts.gartner.com/reprints/microfocus/151340.html
>
> Another option (that doesn't work here) for any <URL> is:
> http://web.archive.org/*/<URL>
>
Which shows Gartner did not change its mind after of all:

<quote>
However, languages such as Programming Language/One (PL/1) and RPG are
following Smalltalk, Advanced Programming Language (APL) and FORTRAN
into their "twilight" years.
</quote>

Notice Smalltalk is used as the example for the "twilight"! :-(

The entry in the table is even more illustrative:

<quote>
Community has shrunk substantially. Language can still be considered
mature in versions supported by vendors such as Instantiations and
Cincom. Unsupported versions are classed as aging.
</quote>

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