[vwnc] Newbie woes / VW 7.6

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> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:23 PM
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> Subject: [vwnc] Newbie woes / VW 7.6
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I know it is not really nice to have a first posting which at
> least partly resembles a complaint, but this is something I
> do not really understand.
>
> As a starting project I wanted to implement some basic CSV
> support as my Seaside project is going to store some things
> in a simple format, and CSV is really simple.
> I figured this would be great as I could learn some more
> about the Filename and the Stream hierarchy.
> My eyebrows rose first when I did not find a "Stream>>nextLine"
> implementation. I figured, I had simply not understood how
> Streams worked in VW, so I just implemented my own. After
> some more pondering, I asked in the newsgroup
> (comp.lang.smalltalk) about this and it turns out that
> nextLine *is* implemented; however it is implemented in
> NetClientBase, about exactly the package I would have
> expected it to be in.
>
> The second thing was that I needed to watch a Screencast
> before I found out that VisualWorks actually comes with some
> Code Edit Enhancements (tab-completion, code formatter,
> syntax highlighting), but you have to browse through all the
> packages first to find those things.
>
> The third thing was the package of getting the system time
> and using that instead of the internal one. I only learned
> about that, again via a Screencast.
>
> (The screencasts make getting to know VisualWorks actually
> much easier btw, a big thanks to Mr Robertson for those.)
>
> But still, what I do not really understand is this: Why is
> stuff like that not simply included in the base image itself?
> It would make starting out in VisualWorks land so much easier...
>
> Regards,
>
> Claus
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> Hello everyone,
>
> I know it is not really nice to have a first posting which at least
> partly resembles a complaint, but this is something I do not really
> understand.
>
> As a starting project I wanted to implement some basic CSV support as my
> Seaside project is going to store some things in a simple format, and
> CSV is really simple.
> I figured this would be great as I could learn some more about the
> Filename and the Stream hierarchy.
> My eyebrows rose first when I did not find a "Stream>>nextLine"
> implementation. I figured, I had simply not understood how Streams
> worked in VW, so I just implemented my own. After some more pondering, I
> asked in the newsgroup (comp.lang.smalltalk) about this and it turns out
> that nextLine *is* implemented; however it is implemented in
> NetClientBase, about exactly the package I would have expected it to be in.
>
> The second thing was that I needed to watch a Screencast before I found
> out that VisualWorks actually comes with some Code Edit Enhancements
> (tab-completion, code formatter, syntax highlighting), but you have to
> browse through all the packages first to find those things.
>
> The third thing was the package of getting the system time and using
> that instead of the internal one. I only learned about that, again via a
> Screencast.
>
> (The screencasts make getting to know VisualWorks actually much easier
> btw, a big thanks to Mr Robertson for those.)
>
> But still, what I do not really understand is this: Why is stuff like
> that not simply included in the base image itself?
> It would make starting out in VisualWorks land so much easier...
>
> Regards,
>
> Claus
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