[vwnc] Problem installing VWNC 7.6 on Ubuntu 7.10 (32 bit)

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Re: [vwnc] Problem installing VWNC 7.6 on Ubuntu 7.10 (32 bit)

Steven Kelly
Works fine for me on Ubuntu 7.10 (32-bit) under VMWare 5.5. Maybe your
problem is with your locale - at least with earlier versions that has
been a common source of problems. I have LANG=en_US.UTF-8

Another problem might be fonts: make sure you have Adobe's Helvetica and
Courier for your screen dpi and encoding. Mine are like this:

-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-120-75-75-p-67-iso8859-1

HTH,
Steve

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On
> Behalf Of Andrey Larionov
> Sent: 30 September 2008 15:31
> To: Joachim Tuchel
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [vwnc] Problem installing VWNC 7.6 on Ubuntu 7.10 (32
bit)
>
> Yes, i'm sure. Only if Cincom distribute it on 7.6 ISO image. And by
> NET installer :)
> Nobody uses VW on Linux?
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 16:00, Joachim Tuchel
<[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > No idea whether this might be related, but the empty exception
window
> is what I get if I open a 7.6 image with a 7.5 VM on my MacIntel. Are
> you sure you don't have 2 versions of VW installed - or do you ensure
> that the right one is being used?
> >
> >>I have no success on three different machines. Still recive empty
> >>exception window. Is Cincom have tested VW, or can recomendate some
> >>free distribution of linux?
> >>
> >>On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 18:30, Michel Dufour
<[hidden email]>

> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I tried something else by installing Suse Linux and got the same
> >>> problem while trying to install VW.
> >>>
> >>> My new compturer is a HP Slimware (amd 64 -dual core).
> >>>
> >>> I think the problem it is hardware because on my old Pentium 4,
> same
> >>> Ubuntu version I was able to install easily. Except that I cannot
> set
> >>> the VISUALWORK env. variable.
> >>>
> >>> Michel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 7/7/08, Alan Knight <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>> The xset fp rehash should not be necessary any more. This was a
> bug with
> >>the
> >>>> window manager messing up the font path. It has supposedly been
> fixed in
> >>>> more recent versions of the window manager, and the thing that
> VisualWorks
> >>>> was doing that caused it to manifest is no longer done in 7.6.
(On

> >>startup,
> >>>> finding system fonts to match the fonts that it was saved with,
> and then
> >>>> later in startup throwing them away and getting fonts more
> appropriate to
> >>>> the system it's now running on).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> At 04:35 AM 7/7/2008, Steven Kelly wrote:
> >>>> We have a couple of cases on Ubuntu where our VW 7.4.1 app hasn't
> worked
> >>>> even with xset fp rehash. The problem then has apparently been
> that
> >>>> Ubuntu's fonts were messed up in some way: when VW asks, Ubuntu
> says it
> >>>> has an Adobe Helvetica font, but when VW tries to get that font
> Ubuntu
> >>>> says it doesn't exist. In both cases, installing the Ghostscript
> fonts
> >>>> and aliases cured the problem:
> >>>>
> >>>> sudo apt-get install gsfonts-x11
> >>>>
> >>>> HTH,
> >>>> Steve
> >>>>
> >
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Re: [vwnc] Problem installing VWNC 7.6 on Ubuntu 7.10 (32 bit)

kobetic
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"Andrey Larionov"<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Yes, i'm sure. Only if Cincom distribute it on 7.6 ISO image. And by
> NET installer :)
> Nobody uses VW on Linux?

I've been running VW on Fedora pretty much exclusively for past few years (currently Fedora 8).
VW for Linux is being built and tested on verious versions of RedHat Linux. But it's definitely been run on Debian based distributions too, and I believe we do have customers deploying on those as well. I'm not sure what's the problem in your case, but I would definitely look into the issues that Steven pointed out first. Try running it with the US locale, see what happens. It should be possible to run under other Locales too, but between Locale, fonts, and the aging Xlib APIs it's always possible to run into a configuration that just doesn't work.

Another possible source of this kind of trouble are the message catalogs. If you have messages/ directory in your install, try renaming it to something that VW won't recogn!
 ize. The key is preventing VW from finding the catalogs and making it fall back to the default english messages.

HTH,

Martin
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Re: [vwnc] Problem installing VWNC 7.6 on Ubuntu 7.10 (32 bit)

Lautaro Fernández
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2008/9/30 Andrey Larionov <[hidden email]>
Yes, i'm sure. Only if Cincom distribute it on 7.6 ISO image. And by
NET installer :)
Nobody uses VW on Linux?

Yes, I use VW in Ubuntu 7.10. And I had no problem with the installation, but I didn't use the net installer.
What did I do?:
1) I mount the iso,
2) then I copy all files to an specific folder (ie: /home/lautaro/CincomCD/),
3) give them permissions as 777,
4) to finally run the script.

I recommend you not to use folder with spaces like: '/home/lautaro/some folder/Cincom', although I don't know if this is your case. (It brought me some problems to run my images)

This 4 steps has always been successful for me.
Hope this helps you.

Bye
Lautaro

PS: sorry Andrey Larinov for the double email.
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Re: [vwnc] Problem installing VWNC 7.6 on Ubuntu 7.10 (32 bit)

Andrey Larionov
Okey, I'll try all sugesstions, but can anybody explain something
about Helvetica. Where can i get it?
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 18:26, Lautaro Fernández <[hidden email]> wrote:

> 2008/9/30 Andrey Larionov <[hidden email]>
>>
>> Yes, i'm sure. Only if Cincom distribute it on 7.6 ISO image. And by
>> NET installer :)
>> Nobody uses VW on Linux?
>
> Yes, I use VW in Ubuntu 7.10. And I had no problem with the installation,
> but I didn't use the net installer.
> What did I do?:
> 1) I mount the iso,
> 2) then I copy all files to an specific folder (ie:
> /home/lautaro/CincomCD/),
> 3) give them permissions as 777,
> 4) to finally run the script.
>
> I recommend you not to use folder with spaces like: '/home/lautaro/some
> folder/Cincom', although I don't know if this is your case. (It brought me
> some problems to run my images)
>
> This 4 steps has always been successful for me.
> Hope this helps you.
>
> Bye
> Lautaro
>
> PS: sorry Andrey Larinov for the double email.
> --
> Luke LAut SkyFernadezWalker
>

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Re: [vwnc] Problem installing VWNC 7.6 on Ubuntu 7.10 (32 bit)

Steven Kelly
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You can check you have the -adobe-helvetica fonts by looking at the output of xlsfonts. However, Ubuntu 7.10 can get into a situation where it claims to have the font, but then refuses to supply it to VW. See the earlier conversation:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.vwnc/14475/focus=14492

If you haven't already, it's thus worth trying the following line even if xlsfonts claims the font is available:

sudo apt-get install gsfonts-x11

I suspect this is all part of the interconnected set of bugs in Ubuntu reported by Pete Hatch: http://launchpad.net/bugs/52163

HTH,
Steve

Andrey Larionov wrote:
> Okey, I'll try all sugesstions, but can anybody explain something
> about Helvetica. Where can i get it?

> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 18:26, Lautaro Fernández <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > 2008/9/30 Andrey Larionov <[hidden email]>
> >>
> >> Yes, i'm sure. Only if Cincom distribute it on 7.6 ISO image. And by
> >> NET installer :)
> >> Nobody uses VW on Linux?
> >
> > Yes, I use VW in Ubuntu 7.10. And I had no problem with the
> installation,
> > but I didn't use the net installer.
> > What did I do?:
> > 1) I mount the iso,
> > 2) then I copy all files to an specific folder (ie:
> > /home/lautaro/CincomCD/),
> > 3) give them permissions as 777,
> > 4) to finally run the script.
> >
> > I recommend you not to use folder with spaces like:
> '/home/lautaro/some
> > folder/Cincom', although I don't know if this is your case. (It
> brought me
> > some problems to run my images)
> >
> > This 4 steps has always been successful for me.
> > Hope this helps you.
> >
> > Bye
> > Lautaro
> >
> > PS: sorry Andrey Larinov for the double email.
> > --
> > Luke LAut SkyFernadezWalker
> >
>
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Re: [vwnc] Problem installing VWNC 7.6 on Ubuntu 7.10 (32 bit)

Andrey Larionov
I want to say thank you for everybody. I successfuly run VWNC. Yes,
it's a locale aware problem. Setting to en_US helps.

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 19:09, Steven Kelly <[hidden email]> wrote:

> You can check you have the -adobe-helvetica fonts by looking at the output of xlsfonts. However, Ubuntu 7.10 can get into a situation where it claims to have the font, but then refuses to supply it to VW. See the earlier conversation:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.vwnc/14475/focus=14492
>
> If you haven't already, it's thus worth trying the following line even if xlsfonts claims the font is available:
>
> sudo apt-get install gsfonts-x11
>
> I suspect this is all part of the interconnected set of bugs in Ubuntu reported by Pete Hatch: http://launchpad.net/bugs/52163
>
> HTH,
> Steve
>
> Andrey Larionov wrote:
>> Okey, I'll try all sugesstions, but can anybody explain something
>> about Helvetica. Where can i get it?
>
>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 18:26, Lautaro Fernández <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>> > 2008/9/30 Andrey Larionov <[hidden email]>
>> >>
>> >> Yes, i'm sure. Only if Cincom distribute it on 7.6 ISO image. And by
>> >> NET installer :)
>> >> Nobody uses VW on Linux?
>> >
>> > Yes, I use VW in Ubuntu 7.10. And I had no problem with the
>> installation,
>> > but I didn't use the net installer.
>> > What did I do?:
>> > 1) I mount the iso,
>> > 2) then I copy all files to an specific folder (ie:
>> > /home/lautaro/CincomCD/),
>> > 3) give them permissions as 777,
>> > 4) to finally run the script.
>> >
>> > I recommend you not to use folder with spaces like:
>> '/home/lautaro/some
>> > folder/Cincom', although I don't know if this is your case. (It
>> brought me
>> > some problems to run my images)
>> >
>> > This 4 steps has always been successful for me.
>> > Hope this helps you.
>> >
>> > Bye
>> > Lautaro
>> >
>> > PS: sorry Andrey Larinov for the double email.
>> > --
>> > Luke LAut SkyFernadezWalker
>> >
>>
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