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Ron Dobbelstein
Hi,
 
First of all, thanks for all those who responded to my question about detecting duplicates in a large OrderedCollection; there were a number of good solutions and performance wise a couple of them  weren't that bad.
 
I'm trying to use GLORP now to store my result in a Postgress database (VWNC 7.6). However, I can't find any up-to-date documentation for GLORP. I did find a couple of documents on the Internet, but I suppose they are a bit outdated (that is, they were written in 2005 or so). There is also a website (http://www.glorp.org/index.html) , but it seems that isn't maintained anymore. Does anyone know where I can find up-to-date documentation for GLORP for VWNC 7.6?
 
TIA,
 
Ron
 
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Re: [vwnc] Up-to-date GLORP documentation

James Robertson-7
Better doc will be shipping with 7.7


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On Dec 7, 2009, at 4:38 AM, Ron Dobbelstein wrote:

Hi,
 
First of all, thanks for all those who responded to my question about detecting duplicates in a large OrderedCollection; there were a number of good solutions and performance wise a couple of them  weren't that bad.
 
I'm trying to use GLORP now to store my result in a Postgress database (VWNC 7.6). However, I can't find any up-to-date documentation for GLORP. I did find a couple of documents on the Internet, but I suppose they are a bit outdated (that is, they were written in 2005 or so). There is also a website (http://www.glorp.org/index.html) , but it seems that isn't maintained anymore. Does anyone know where I can find up-to-date documentation for GLORP for VWNC 7.6?
 
TIA,
 
Ron
 
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Re: [vwnc] Up-to-date GLORP documentation

reinier van oosten-2
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Hi Ron,
The best documentation I have found is the one of Roger Whitney. Many of the things I want to do I'l find there. The other source I use is not a Smalltalk source but the book of Martin Fowler: Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture. This describes a lot of the patterns used in Glorp. It also gives a lot of insight in Object-Relational mapping.
You could also look at the help in WebVelocity. I suppose this is just a part of the documentation that will come with 7.7.
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On Dec 7, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Ron Dobbelstein wrote:

Hi,
 
First of all, thanks for all those who responded to my question about detecting duplicates in a large OrderedCollection; there were a number of good solutions and performance wise a couple of them  weren't that bad.
 
I'm trying to use GLORP now to store my result in a Postgress database (VWNC 7.6). However, I can't find any up-to-date documentation for GLORP. I did find a couple of documents on the Internet, but I suppose they are a bit outdated (that is, they were written in 2005 or so). There is also a website (http://www.glorp.org/index.html) , but it seems that isn't maintained anymore. Does anyone know where I can find up-to-date documentation for GLORP for VWNC 7.6?
 
TIA,
 
Ron
 
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Re: [vwnc] Up-to-date GLORP documentation

Bruce Boyer
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This is somewhat misleading.  There is limited Glorp documentation built into the WebVelocity product, and WV is being bundled with VW 7.7, as I understand the packaging. 
 
Note that Glorp remains an open-source, community-supported framework, and a Camp Smalltalk project.  Feel free to contribute to the doc accordingly.  Cincom will likely do so as well.
 
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On Dec 7, 2009, at 4:38 AM, Ron Dobbelstein wrote:

Hi,
 
First of all, thanks for all those who responded to my question about detecting duplicates in a large OrderedCollection; there were a number of good solutions and performance wise a couple of them  weren't that bad.
 
I'm trying to use GLORP now to store my result in a Postgress database (VWNC 7.6). However, I can't find any up-to-date documentation for GLORP. I did find a couple of documents on the Internet, but I suppose they are a bit outdated (that is, they were written in 2005 or so). There is also a website (http://www.glorp.org/index.html) , but it seems that isn't maintained anymore. Does anyone know where I can find up-to-date documentation for GLORP for VWNC 7.6?
 
TIA,
 
Ron
 
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Re: [vwnc] Up-to-date GLORP documentation

Alan Knight-2
I don't think Web Velocity is bundled with 7.7 - at least not in the sense that they're distributed on the same media. But it doesn't really matter, if you're only interested in the documentation associated with Web Velocity it's easily available in the "lite" version that can be found at http://www.web-velocity.com

I'm not aware of any Glorp documentation shipping with 7.7 as such. In 7.7 Glorp is used in Store, but the documentation for that is not really documenting general Glorp usage, and for the most part it should be invisible to users. In ObjectStudio 8.2 Glorp is used as the underlying basis for the mapping tool, and is documented as such, but again, not so much standalone. The general Glorp documentation is a bit outdated. I expect that Cincom will be helping to improve that, but yes, community input is certainly welcomed.

At 10:56 AM 2009-12-07, Bruce Boyer wrote:
This is somewhat misleading.  There is limited Glorp documentation built into the WebVelocity product, and WV is being bundled with VW 7.7, as I understand the packaging. 
 
Note that Glorp remains an open-source, community-supported framework, and a Camp Smalltalk project.  Feel free to contribute to the doc accordingly.  Cincom will likely do so as well.
 
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On Dec 7, 2009, at 4:38 AM, Ron Dobbelstein wrote:

Hi,
 
First of all, thanks for all those who responded to my question about detecting duplicates in a large OrderedCollection; there were a number of good solutions and performance wise a couple of them  weren't that bad.
 
I'm trying to use GLORP now to store my result in a Postgress database (VWNC 7.6). However, I can't find any up-to-date documentation for GLORP. I did find a couple of documents on the Internet, but I suppose they are a bit outdated (that is, they were written in 2005 or so). There is also a website ( http://www.glorp.org/index.html ) , but it seems that isn't maintained anymore. Does anyone know where I can find up-to-date documentation for GLORP for VWNC 7.6?
 
TIA,
 
Ron
 
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Re: [vwnc] Up-to-date GLORP documentation

Niall Ross
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Dear Ron,
    Roger Whitney's Glorp Tutorial is a good starter document.  Nevin
Pratt's Glorp User Guide is older and unfinished (in versions I've seen
that is);  its intro chapters material is informative although probably
now adequately covered by Roger.  Alan Knight's 'GLORP for TOPLink
Users' is a brief overview that is also of use to non-TOPLink users.  
These are all older than the ActiveRecord work.  The WebVelocity docs
cover this.  Below, I list a series of AR-in-Glorp-related podcasts by
James.

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Seaside_and_Rails_Comparison&entry=3372935774

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Smalltalk_Daily_10/8/07:_Getting_Started_with_GLORP&entry=3369285947

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Smalltalk_Daily_10/9/07:_Loading_the_ActiveRecord_Demos&entry=3369394671

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Smalltalk_Daily_10/10/07:_Active_Record_in_GLORP&entry=3369479714

http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=Smalltalk_Daily_10/16/07:_Glorp_and_Active_Record_I&entry=3369989369

HTH
          Yours faithfully
                Niall Ross

> Hi,
>  
> First of all, thanks for all those who responded to my question about
> detecting duplicates in a large OrderedCollection; there were a number
> of good solutions and performance wise a couple of them  weren't that bad.
>  
> I'm trying to use GLORP now to store my result in a Postgress database
> (VWNC 7.6). However, I can't find any up-to-date documentation for
> GLORP. I did find a couple of documents on the Internet, but I suppose
> they are a bit outdated (that is, they were written in 2005 or so).
> There is also a website (_http://www.glorp.org/index.html_) , but it
> seems that isn't maintained anymore. Does anyone know where I can find
> up-to-date documentation for GLORP for VWNC 7.6?
>  
> TIA,
>  
> Ron
>  
> De informatie verzonden met dit emailbericht is uitsluitend bestemd
> voor de geadresseerde. Gebruik van deze informatie door anderen dan de
> geadresseerde is verboden. Openbaarmaking, vermenigvuldiging,
> verspreiding en/of verstrekking van deze informatie aan derden is niet
> toegestaan. Afzender staat niet in voor de juiste en volledige
> overbrenging van de inhoud van een verzonden email, noch voor tijdige
> ontvangst daarvan. Afzender attendeert erop dat de vertrouwelijkheid
> van informatie verzonden per email niet gewaarborgd is.
>
> The information contained in this communication is confidential and
> may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the
> individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorised to
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> prohibited and may be unlawful. Sender is neither liable for the
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> communication nor for any delay in its receipt. Please note that the
> confidentiality of e-mail communication is not warranted.
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