[vwnc] VW7.6 tooltip freezes ...

Dennis

I have not seen this, but a workaround would be to unload
Hover Help and load the Tools-FlyByHelp in the obsolete
folder.
  

Terry
 
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Crafted Smalltalk
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Tiverton, RI  02878
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-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf
Of Dennis Smith
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:14 AM
To: VWNC,
Subject: [vwnc] VW7.6 tooltip freezes ...

We just started using VW7.6 a few weeks ago.  We have been seeing
some freezes, usually occuring during window open or close, which
I am tracking back to tooltip window handling semaphores.

The last one occurred during opening of a Dialog -- our own Dilalog-like
entity -- which does not use tooltips, so it may have been from the
underlying window.  A button was pressed which caused the Dialog
to open, but the Dialog never fully displayed.  Ctrl/Y noted that
it was in a Semaphore related to tooltips.

Anyone else seen this kind of thing??

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Toronto, ON M2J 4Z8              [hidden email]
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Entrance off Yorkland Blvd south of Sheppard Ave east of the DVP

Dennis

I have not seen this, but a workaround would be to unload
Hover Help and load the Tools-FlyByHelp in the obsolete
folder.

Terry
 
===========================================================
Terry Raymond
Crafted Smalltalk
80 Lazywood Ln.
Tiverton, RI  02878
(401) 624-4517      [hidden email]
<http://www.craftedsmalltalk.com>
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-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf
Of Dennis Smith
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:14 AM
To: VWNC,
Subject: [vwnc] VW7.6 tooltip freezes ...

We just started using VW7.6 a few weeks ago.  We have been seeing
some freezes, usually occuring during window open or close, which
I am tracking back to tooltip window handling semaphores.

The last one occurred during opening of a Dialog -- our own Dilalog-like
entity -- which does not use tooltips, so it may have been from the
underlying window.  A button was pressed which caused the Dialog
to open, but the Dialog never fully displayed.  Ctrl/Y noted that
it was in a Semaphore related to tooltips.

Anyone else seen this kind of thing??

--
Dennis Smith                 		         +1 416.798.7948
Cherniak Software Development Corporation   Fax: +1 416.798.0948
509-2001 Sheppard Avenue East        [hidden email]
Toronto, ON M2J 4Z8              [hidden email]
Canada			         http://www.CherniakSoftware.com
Entrance off Yorkland Blvd south of Sheppard Ave east of the DVP

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Cherniak Software Development Corporation   Fax: +1 416.798.0948
509-2001 Sheppard Avenue East        [hidden email]
Toronto, ON M2J 4Z8              [hidden email]
Canada			         http://www.CherniakSoftware.com
Entrance off Yorkland Blvd south of Sheppard Ave east of the DVP

Dennis

 

From what I can tell, the hover help window manager is the same as

that of the parent window. Which means you don’t need to use a

uiEvent.

 

You can verify this using the Process Monitor.

Terry

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Crafted Smalltalk
80 Lazywood Ln.
Tiverton, RI  02878
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From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dennis Smith
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:14 PM
Cc: 'VWNC, '
Subject: Re: [vwnc] VW7.6 tooltip freezes ...

 

I may have an answer to this.  I pass an object instead of a string to
the hover-help code.  When accessed, this object computes the help.

Since it is accessing data being used by my GUI, I forced the code into
the ui event queue and waited -- (uiEventNowFor: ...).

Its possible that this had problems being used around window opens and
closes.  As a test, I have removed that (dangerous!) -- if the problems
go away, I will look at how to deal with it differently.


Terry Raymond wrote:

Dennis

I have not seen this, but a workaround would be to unload

Hover Help and load the Tools-FlyByHelp in the obsolete

folder.

Terry

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Terry Raymond

Crafted Smalltalk

80 Lazywood Ln.

Tiverton, RI  02878

(401) 624-4517      [hidden email]

<http://www.craftedsmalltalk.com>

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-----Original Message-----

From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] On Behalf

Of Dennis Smith

Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:14 AM

To: VWNC,

Subject: [vwnc] VW7.6 tooltip freezes ...

We just started using VW7.6 a few weeks ago.  We have been seeing

some freezes, usually occuring during window open or close, which

I am tracking back to tooltip window handling semaphores.

The last one occurred during opening of a Dialog -- our own Dilalog-like

entity -- which does not use tooltips, so it may have been from the

underlying window.  A button was pressed which caused the Dialog

to open, but the Dialog never fully displayed.  Ctrl/Y noted that

it was in a Semaphore related to tooltips.

Anyone else seen this kind of thing??

--

Dennis Smith                                    +1 416.798.7948

Cherniak Software Development Corporation   Fax: +1 416.798.0948

509-2001 Sheppard Avenue East        [hidden email]

Toronto, ON M2J 4Z8              [hidden email]

Canada                           http://www.CherniakSoftware.com

Entrance off Yorkland Blvd south of Sheppard Ave east of the DVP

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509-2001 Sheppard Avenue East        [hidden email]

Toronto, ON M2J 4Z8              [hidden email]

Canada                         http://www.CherniakSoftware.com

Entrance off Yorkland Blvd south of Sheppard Ave east of the DVP

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Dennis Smith                 		         +1 416.798.7948
Cherniak Software Development Corporation   Fax: +1 416.798.0948
509-2001 Sheppard Avenue East        [hidden email]
Toronto, ON M2J 4Z8              [hidden email]
Canada			         http://www.CherniakSoftware.com
Entrance off Yorkland Blvd south of Sheppard Ave east of the DVP