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web site hosting and application hosting providers?

Gary Peterson
Hi Group,
 
Does anyone have suggestions for providers for web site hosting / application hosting in regard to:
 
1) VisualWorks Application Server?
 
2) Seaside and WebVelocity?
 
Thank you,
 
Gary

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Re: web site hosting and application hosting providers?

jarober
See:


That's using Smalltalk Server pages (in VW) rather than Seaside, but it plays the same way.  I deployed a few Seaside apps while I was at Cincom, using this approach (although on their servers rather than a VPS)


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Hi Group,
 
Does anyone have suggestions for providers for web site hosting / application hosting in regard to:
 
1) VisualWorks Application Server?
 
2) Seaside and WebVelocity?
 
Thank you,
 
Gary
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Re: web site hosting and application hosting providers?

David Long @ gmail
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Hi Gary,

SageTea Group can provide hosting for Smalltalk applications. Hosting includes a static IP address, unlimited bandwidth and shell level access with standard email, ftp and ssh accounts. I can be reached at 877 722 2091 x 5 to order.

regards,
David

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Hi Group,
 
Does anyone have suggestions for providers for web site hosting / application hosting in regard to:
 
1) VisualWorks Application Server?
 
2) Seaside and WebVelocity?
 
Thank you,
 
Gary

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Re: web site hosting and application hosting providers?

stephane ducasse-2
Hi david

this is a great news.
Did you do some ad in the seaside mailing-list?
Do you have a website mentioning that.

Stef

On Dec 22, 2010, at 9:17 PM, David Long wrote:

> Hi Gary,
>
> SageTea Group can provide hosting for Smalltalk applications. Hosting includes a static IP address, unlimited bandwidth and shell level access with standard email, ftp and ssh accounts. I can be reached at 877 722 2091 x 5 to order.
>
> regards,
> David
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Gary Peterson <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Group,
>  
> Does anyone have suggestions for providers for web site hosting / application hosting in regard to:
>  
> 1) VisualWorks Application Server?
>  
> 2) Seaside and WebVelocity?
>  
> Thank you,
>  
> Gary
>
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Re: web site hosting and application hosting providers?

David Long @ gmail
Hello Stephane,

here's a link to the service:
http://sageteagroup.com/cms/SmalltalkHosting

regards,
David
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:45 PM, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi david

this is a great news.
Did you do some ad in the seaside mailing-list?
Do you have a website mentioning that.

Stef

On Dec 22, 2010, at 9:17 PM, David Long wrote:

> Hi Gary,
>
> SageTea Group can provide hosting for Smalltalk applications. Hosting includes a static IP address, unlimited bandwidth and shell level access with standard email, ftp and ssh accounts. I can be reached at 877 722 2091 x 5 to order.
>
> regards,
> David
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Gary Peterson <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Group,
>
> Does anyone have suggestions for providers for web site hosting / application hosting in regard to:
>
> 1) VisualWorks Application Server?
>
> 2) Seaside and WebVelocity?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Gary
>
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Re: web site hosting and application hosting providers?

Gary Peterson

Thank you David and Stephane:
 
Do we have a sample "Hello World" Smalltalk Web Application; ie similar to the VW "Walk Through" that applies to standard applications?
 
Thank you,
 
Gary
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [vwnc] web site hosting and application hosting providers?

Hello Stephane,

here's a link to the service:
http://sageteagroup.com/cms/SmalltalkHosting

regards,
David
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:45 PM, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi david

this is a great news.
Did you do some ad in the seaside mailing-list?
Do you have a website mentioning that.

Stef

On Dec 22, 2010, at 9:17 PM, David Long wrote:

> Hi Gary,
>
> SageTea Group can provide hosting for Smalltalk applications. Hosting includes a static IP address, unlimited bandwidth and shell level access with standard email, ftp and ssh accounts. I can be reached at 877 722 2091 x 5 to order.
>
> regards,
> David
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Gary Peterson <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Group,
>
> Does anyone have suggestions for providers for web site hosting / application hosting in regard to:
>
> 1) VisualWorks Application Server?
>
> 2) Seaside and WebVelocity?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Gary
>
> _______________________________________________
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Re: web site hosting and application hosting providers?

jarober
You could try the Seaside tutorial:



On Dec 22, 2010, at 9:38 PM, Gary Peterson wrote:

Thank you David and Stephane:
 
Do we have a sample "Hello World" Smalltalk Web Application; ie similar to the VW "Walk Through" that applies to standard applications?
 
Thank you,
 
Gary
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [vwnc] web site hosting and application hosting providers?

Hello Stephane,

here's a link to the service: 
http://sageteagroup.com/cms/SmalltalkHosting

regards,
David
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:45 PM, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi david

this is a great news.
Did you do some ad in the seaside mailing-list?
Do you have a website mentioning that.

Stef

On Dec 22, 2010, at 9:17 PM, David Long wrote:

> Hi Gary,
>
> SageTea Group can provide hosting for Smalltalk applications. Hosting includes a static IP address, unlimited bandwidth and shell level access with standard email, ftp and ssh accounts. I can be reached at 877 722 2091 x 5 to order.
>
> regards,
> David
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Gary Peterson <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Group,
>
> Does anyone have suggestions for providers for web site hosting / application hosting in regard to:
>
> 1) VisualWorks Application Server?
>
> 2) Seaside and WebVelocity?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Gary
>
> _______________________________________________
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Re: web site hosting and application hosting providers?

stephane ducasse-2
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http://book.seaside.st 
        for examples.

On Dec 23, 2010, at 3:38 AM, Gary Peterson wrote:

> Thank you David and Stephane:
>  
> Do we have a sample "Hello World" Smalltalk Web Application; ie similar to the VW "Walk Through" that applies to standard applications?
>  
> Thank you,
>  
> Gary
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Long
> To: stephane ducasse
> Cc: Gary Peterson ; [hidden email]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [vwnc] web site hosting and application hosting providers?
>
> Hello Stephane,
>
> here's a link to the service:
> http://sageteagroup.com/cms/SmalltalkHosting
>
> regards,
> David
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:45 PM, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi david
>
> this is a great news.
> Did you do some ad in the seaside mailing-list?
> Do you have a website mentioning that.
>
> Stef
>
> On Dec 22, 2010, at 9:17 PM, David Long wrote:
>
> > Hi Gary,
> >
> > SageTea Group can provide hosting for Smalltalk applications. Hosting includes a static IP address, unlimited bandwidth and shell level access with standard email, ftp and ssh accounts. I can be reached at 877 722 2091 x 5 to order.
> >
> > regards,
> > David
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Gary Peterson <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi Group,
> >
> > Does anyone have suggestions for providers for web site hosting / application hosting in regard to:
> >
> > 1) VisualWorks Application Server?
> >
> > 2) Seaside and WebVelocity?
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > vwnc mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/mailman/listinfo/vwnc
> >
> >
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>
>


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Re: web site hosting and application hosting providers?

stephane ducasse-2
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david

may be you should put a contact and an email because I'm not sure people will call you first.

Stef
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Re: web site hosting and application hosting providers?

Gary Peterson
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Perfect.
 
Thank you James
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [vwnc] web site hosting and application hosting providers?

You could try the Seaside tutorial:



On Dec 22, 2010, at 9:38 PM, Gary Peterson wrote:

Thank you David and Stephane:
 
Do we have a sample "Hello World" Smalltalk Web Application; ie similar to the VW "Walk Through" that applies to standard applications?
 
Thank you,
 
Gary
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [vwnc] web site hosting and application hosting providers?

Hello Stephane,

here's a link to the service: 
http://sageteagroup.com/cms/SmalltalkHosting

regards,
David
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:45 PM, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi david

this is a great news.
Did you do some ad in the seaside mailing-list?
Do you have a website mentioning that.

Stef

On Dec 22, 2010, at 9:17 PM, David Long wrote:

> Hi Gary,
>
> SageTea Group can provide hosting for Smalltalk applications. Hosting includes a static IP address, unlimited bandwidth and shell level access with standard email, ftp and ssh accounts. I can be reached at 877 722 2091 x 5 to order.
>
> regards,
> David
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Gary Peterson <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Group,
>
> Does anyone have suggestions for providers for web site hosting / application hosting in regard to:
>
> 1) VisualWorks Application Server?
>
> 2) Seaside and WebVelocity?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Gary
>
> _______________________________________________
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Re: web site hosting and application hosting providers?

David Long @ gmail
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Hello Stef,

yes, there is a free quote form:
http://sageteagroup.com/cms/SmalltalkHosting

A basic setup is just $29 a month.

regards,
David

On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 2:04 AM, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
david

may be you should put a contact and an email because I'm not sure people will call you first.

Stef


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jarober
One other thing to keep in mind - it's not that difficult to set up a VPS (and prices are much, much cheaper now than they used to be).

I run my server - http://www.jarober.com using Smalltalk, and I documented the setup here:



On Dec 23, 2010, at 8:24 AM, David Long wrote:

Hello Stef,

yes, there is a free quote form:
http://sageteagroup.com/cms/SmalltalkHosting

A basic setup is just $29 a month.

regards,
David

On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 2:04 AM, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
david

may be you should put a contact and an email because I'm not sure people will call you first.

Stef

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Re: Smalltalk Web App Config Details

David Long @ gmail
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Hi Gary,

our basic hosting package provides the ability to launch any Smalltalk runtime which you provide. The $29 / month gets you the bandwidth and server access you need to configure your application. This would be for a "do it yourself" deployment. Most ISPs don't provide the type of access that Smalltalk applications require in order to run on the web. This is what our basic service does.

Here is the link to order it: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=MBA7V3ELVRU7G

For clients that want to take their current Smalltalk application and run it on the web, the best thing to do is
send us their requirements using this form:
http://sageteagroup.com/cms/Request%20For%20Quote

We will customize a quote a monthly fee based service for each client based on what they send us.

We also provide a web enabled Smalltalk solution (using Seaside) which can be used as an off the shelf
front end.

Here is a link to the demo:
http://ottawa1.sageteagroup.com:8008/BizProLauncher
(User name = Demo / Password = Online_2008)

This is what we'd recommend for doing a Smalltalk based web front end - for inventory control for example. This has a new feature also which allows javaScript to be integrated directly. This is very handy if you have some code written in something other than Smalltalk which you want to use.

If you are looking for something specific, best thing to do is fill out the quote form above. We'll get back with
an answer in 48 hours.

regards,

David

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Gary Peterson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi David,
 
Do you have instructions on what is required for deployment from the application side for Smalltalk Web App?
 
Do you support/suggest ssp, servlets, visual wave, other, for using your hosting?
 
I've deployed java servlets, and RoR, so was wondering how this might compare. The tutorials using VW are nice, but deployment can be a big part of the game (from this end anyway). I know for RoR recently we developed quite a tricks & traps list.
 
Thank you very much,
 
Gary
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: [vwnc] web site hosting and application hosting providers?

Hello Stef,

yes, there is a free quote form:
http://sageteagroup.com/cms/SmalltalkHosting

A basic setup is just $29 a month.

regards,
David

On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 2:04 AM, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
david

may be you should put a contact and an email because I'm not sure people will call you first.

Stef



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