working visual.app bundle for intel macs

Hi,

Lukas Renggli has produced a MacOS X bundle of the vm (version  
7.4.1d) that works nicely for Intel Macs:
http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Research/Moose/download/vw/visual-mac- 
intel-741d.app.zip

You can start it by dragging an image on it, or by associating it as  
an application to open the image with. The scripts inside also open  
X11 if it is not already open, so you do not have to start it upfront.

To upgrade the vm inside, you need to replace Contents/Resources/
visual.app with the new version provided.

Enjoy.

Cheers,
Doru


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(www.iam.unibe.ch/~girba)        University of Bern, Switzerland

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Hi there,

has anyone gotten this to work?
I seem not to understand exactly what to do. First, doing what Tudor
describes produces a .app inside Contents/Resources/visual.app, so there
is an .app in a .app. Is this intended?
Even worse is that this doesn't work for me. The VW Icon bounces in the
dock and disappears. X11 is not being started.

Can anyone help me with this?

Thanx

Joachim

Tudor Girba schrieb:

Works fine for me.

I downloaded the zip, which resulted in one app file (not two).
Then I draged an .im on the app and it runs.

-- Adrian

On 22. Nov 2006, at 7:03 , Joachim Tuchel wrote:

I don't know if I am able to post to the list. Making another try. If  
the moderator is deleting test messages, please give me a notice. If  
the list is set not to echo own messages, please give me a notice if  
you read this.

LEF

Looks like I got through this time. (I also got an out-of-office-
reply from Monty Williams, BTW.)

Now I have one question. I have downloaded VW for Mac OS X and it  
mostly works fine except that it cannot use the Mac clipboard and it  
responds poorly to the touchpad on my iBook. So it seems something is  
the matter with the interface. Do anyone here have any experience  
with this?

LEF

Hi Lars

Please add some detail on the configuration you are using (OS, machine,
VW-version) to your description!

Until my MacBook Pro arrived I used a 1GHz Powerbook with MacOSX 10.3.9,
and found it to be OK, even without running it under X11.

What I (not VisualWorks specific!) experienced on the MacBook is that
the touchpad missed some movements because 'Ignore possibly false
movements' was checked in the Preferences of MacOSX 10.4.8 (sorry for
the bad translation, my language is set to german :-)

And of course everybody is desperately waiting for the new Aqua-VM for
VW7.5!

Greetings

Roland Wagener
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Lars Finsen schrieb:

To copy, try ctrl-c followed apple-c. This works for me -- sometimes.

-- Adrian



On 22. Nov 2006, at 17:08 , Lars Finsen wrote:

Lars Finsen <[hidden email]> wrote:

| Looks like I got through this time. (I also got an out-of-office-
| reply from Monty Williams, BTW.)

| Now I have one question. I have downloaded VW for Mac OS X and it
| mostly works fine except that it cannot use the Mac clipboard

if you're taliing abut the X11 VM then after yu copy to the X clipboard you need to use Apple C to copy from the X11 clipboard to the system's one.

| and it
| responds poorly to the touchpad on my iBook. So it seems something is
| the matter with the interface.

I haven't seen this.  The touchpad works fine for me.

| Do anyone here have any experience with this?

| LEF
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Since I am one of the few Norwegian-speaking persons here, I'll reply:

Joda, den kommer frem til alle! :-) Lykke til med Smalltalk! På mange
områder gir VisualWorks fordeler i forholde til de gjengse
utviklingsverktøyene. Samtidig er det gøy!

Listen"ekkoer" ikke egne meldinger.

Runar

[hidden email] wrote:

> quoting me:
>
> | Now I have one question. I have downloaded VW for Mac OS X and it
> | mostly works fine except that it cannot use the Mac clipboard
>
> if you're taliing abut the X11 VM then after yu copy to the X  
> clipboard you need to use Apple C to copy from the X11 clipboard to  
> the system's one.

No, I (think I) am not using X11. But it seems I can copy clips in  
and out using ctrl-C/V instead of apple-C/V.

> | and it
> | responds poorly to the touchpad on my iBook. So it seems  
> something is
> | the matter with the interface.
>
> I haven't seen this.  The touchpad works fine for me.

Mostly it works. Only two-finger scrolling down malfunctions. There  
is of course the scrollbar which I can use instead.

I have been struggling to learn Smalltalk from a couple of e-books I  
have downloaded, but now I think I need a paper book. The advantage  
of the search functions does not outweigh the disadvantage of having  
only one page available at one time. So I wonder if you can recommend  
any that is available.

LEF