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abergel

you spin me around...

Hi!

Juraj worked on rotating text. People have been asking for it for years…

With Roassal 2:

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| v shape |
v := RTView new.
shape := RTRotatedLabel new.
shape angleInDegree: [ :cls | cls numberOfMethods negated / 1.5 ].
shape text: [ :cls | ' ', cls name ].
shape color: (Color black alpha: 0.2).
v addAll: (shape elementsOn: Collection withAllSubclasses).

v canvas color: Color white.
v open

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More screenshots and more examples on:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.573528479400420.1073741841.340543479365589&type=1

Excellent job Juraj!

Before the end of January, we will make a big big announcement. We, the profilers, are working hard these days on a fantastic infrastructure for a better and stronger visual experience.

Cheers,

Alexandre

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Igor Stasenko

Re: [Pharo-dev] you spin me around...

On 20 January 2014 23:21, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi!

Juraj worked on rotating text. People have been asking for it for years…

With Roassal 2:

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

| v shape |
v := RTView new.
shape := RTRotatedLabel new.

why you need separate class for 'rotated' label?
i suppose you also need RTRotatedAndScaledLabel,
RTRotatedAndScewedLabel

.. as well as other (infinite) number of permutations with 'something-ed' and 'Label'.

or its just a prototype?

shape angleInDegree: [ :cls | cls numberOfMethods negated / 1.5 ].
shape text: [ :cls | ' ', cls name ].
shape color: (Color black alpha: 0.2).
v addAll: (shape elementsOn: Collection withAllSubclasses).

v canvas color: Color white.
v open
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

More screenshots and more examples on:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.573528479400420.1073741841.340543479365589&type=1

Excellent job Juraj!

Before the end of January, we will make a big big announcement. We, the profilers, are working hard these days on a fantastic infrastructure for a better and stronger visual experience.

Cheers,
Alexandre

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Stéphane Ducasse

Re: [Pharo-dev] you spin me around...

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
| v shape |
v := RTView new.
shape := RTRotatedLabel new.

why you need separate class for 'rotated' label?
i suppose you also need RTRotatedAndScaledLabel,
RTRotatedAndScewedLabel
.. as well as other (infinite) number of permutations with 'something-ed' and 'Label'.

or its just a prototype?

I asked myself the same.

Why Label can not do everyhing?

Stef

shape angleInDegree: [ :cls | cls numberOfMethods negated / 1.5 ].
shape text: [ :cls | ' ', cls name ].
shape color: (Color black alpha: 0.2).
v addAll: (shape elementsOn: Collection withAllSubclasses).

v canvas color: Color white.
v open
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

More screenshots and more examples on:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.573528479400420.1073741841.340543479365589&type=1

Excellent job Juraj!

Before the end of January, we will make a big big announcement. We, the profilers, are working hard these days on a fantastic infrastructure for a better and stronger visual experience.

Cheers,
Alexandre

--
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Igor Stasenko.
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abergel

Re: [Pharo-dev] you spin me around...

In reply to this post by Igor Stasenko

> why you need separate class for 'rotated' label?

to have rotated labels :-)

> i suppose you also need RTRotatedAndScaledLabel,
> RTRotatedAndScewedLabel
> .. as well as other (infinite) number of permutations with 'something-ed' and 'Label’.

Actually no. Having rotated labels can be considered as a primitive for data visualization. DSM, GraphET need rotated labels. I see Roassal as an abstract for data visualization. Not really as a better API than Athens. Neither as an alternative. Athens works very well, and the API is relatively clean.

Yesterday with Ben we had exactly that discussion. Why not exposing the notion of matrix, like that I can rotate anything? That is a very good point, and we will probably offer such a thing on some point. But the problem with matrixes is that they are highly complicated. Finding the right combination between translation and rotation is always a long set of try-and-see-what-we-get.

> or its just a prototype?

Yes, it is a prototype.
It will probably evolve over the time.

Maybe we will not keep RotatedLabel at the end, but merge it with Label.

One some point, we will introduce a hierarchy for transformation.

Alexandre
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Tudor Girba-2

Re: you spin me around...

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Finally! Nice :)

Doru

On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi!

Juraj worked on rotating text. People have been asking for it for years…

With Roassal 2:

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

| v shape |
v := RTView new.
shape := RTRotatedLabel new.
shape angleInDegree: [ :cls | cls numberOfMethods negated / 1.5 ].
shape text: [ :cls | ' ', cls name ].
shape color: (Color black alpha: 0.2).
v addAll: (shape elementsOn: Collection withAllSubclasses).

v canvas color: Color white.
v open
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

More screenshots and more examples on:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.573528479400420.1073741841.340543479365589&type=1

Excellent job Juraj!

Before the end of January, we will make a big big announcement. We, the profilers, are working hard these days on a fantastic infrastructure for a better and stronger visual experience.

Cheers,
Alexandre

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abergel

Re: [Pharo-dev] you spin me around...

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>> .. as well as other (infinite) number of permutations with 'something-ed' and 'Label'.
>>
>> or its just a prototype?
>
> I asked myself the same.
> Why Label can not do everything?

Because this is a lot already.
The class TRRotatedLabelShape is complex. It is not _just_ applying a rotation matrix. We also need to have the encompassing rectangle, which is needed by the layouts. We also need the bounding box, for checking the point inclusion (i.e., is your mouse above the text?)

I haven’t done any benchmark, but I suspect the rotated label to be slower than the non-rotated label.

But indeed, the shape of hierarchy will surely evolve over the time. Having rotated labels is just a (minor but important) milestone that we wanted to share with you.

Alexandre

>
> Stef
>>
>> shape angleInDegree: [ :cls | cls numberOfMethods negated / 1.5 ].
>> shape text: [ :cls | ' ', cls name ].
>> shape color: (Color black alpha: 0.2).
>> v addAll: (shape elementsOn: Collection withAllSubclasses).
>>
>> v canvas color: Color white.
>> v open
>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>
>> More screenshots and more examples on:
>> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.573528479400420.1073741841.340543479365589&type=1
>>
>> Excellent job Juraj!
>>
>> Before the end of January, we will make a big big announcement. We, the profilers, are working hard these days on a fantastic infrastructure for a better and stronger visual experience.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
>>
>> --
>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Igor Stasenko.
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Stéphane Ducasse

Re: [Pharo-dev] you spin me around...

Igor was telling to me over lunch that the scene element should have a matrix like that any element can be rotated, translated.
I suggest you to have a skype discussion with him.

Stef

>>> .. as well as other (infinite) number of permutations with 'something-ed' and 'Label'.
>>>
>>> or its just a prototype?
>>
>> I asked myself the same.
>> Why Label can not do everything?
>
> Because this is a lot already.
> The class TRRotatedLabelShape is complex. It is not _just_ applying a rotation matrix. We also need to have the encompassing rectangle, which is needed by the layouts. We also need the bounding box, for checking the point inclusion (i.e., is your mouse above the text?)
>
> I haven’t done any benchmark, but I suspect the rotated label to be slower than the non-rotated label.
>
> But indeed, the shape of hierarchy will surely evolve over the time. Having rotated labels is just a (minor but important) milestone that we wanted to share with you.
>
> Alexandre
>
>
>>
>> Stef
>>>
>>> shape angleInDegree: [ :cls | cls numberOfMethods negated / 1.5 ].
>>> shape text: [ :cls | ' ', cls name ].
>>> shape color: (Color black alpha: 0.2).
>>> v addAll: (shape elementsOn: Collection withAllSubclasses).
>>>
>>> v canvas color: Color white.
>>> v open
>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>>
>>> More screenshots and more examples on:
>>> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.573528479400420.1073741841.340543479365589&type=1
>>>
>>> Excellent job Juraj!
>>>
>>> Before the end of January, we will make a big big announcement. We, the profilers, are working hard these days on a fantastic infrastructure for a better and stronger visual experience.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Igor Stasenko.
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