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Randy Caton

2 for Etoys5

Here are two suggestions regarding the next version of etoys:

1. If you add a new collaboration tool, I have had many teachers
impressed with certain ways that Nebraska worked: they liked the
receiver and ears and the fact that you could drop anything onto the
badge (including an etoy with scripts) to send it to someone. I also
think making the IP address visible was valuable.

2. When you change the text font in a button, the button doesn't resize
to fit the new text - it would be nice if it did. And when you edit the
text in a button, the text size reverts to a default - it would be nice
if it stayed the same because you probably wanted to keep the new text size.

Randy Caton

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K. K. Subramaniam

Re: 2 for Etoys5

On Friday 20 November 2009 12:05:44 pm Randall Caton wrote:
> 2. When you change the text font in a button, the button doesn't resize
> to fit the new text - it would be nice if it did. And when you edit the
> text in a button, the text size reverts to a default - it would be nice
> if it stayed the same because you probably wanted to keep the new text
> size.
Unlike other basic morphs, TextMorph has both background (page/layout) and
foreground elements (paragraphs). So the resize and color buttons are
ambiguous. Do the buttons affect background or the para style?

I suppose the autoFit option could be used to disambiguate - if it is ON, then
resize affects the text as you describe. If it is OFF, then resize applies to
the background. Or we could use shift-resize to affect the background.

Subbu
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Bert Freudenberg

Re: 2 for Etoys5

On 20.11.2009, at 08:22, K. K. Subramaniam wrote:

>
> On Friday 20 November 2009 12:05:44 pm Randall Caton wrote:
>> 2. When you change the text font in a button, the button doesn't resize
>> to fit the new text - it would be nice if it did. And when you edit the
>> text in a button, the text size reverts to a default - it would be nice
>> if it stayed the same because you probably wanted to keep the new text
>> size.
> Unlike other basic morphs, TextMorph has both background (page/layout) and
> foreground elements (paragraphs). So the resize and color buttons are
> ambiguous. Do the buttons affect background or the para style?
>
> I suppose the autoFit option could be used to disambiguate - if it is ON, then
> resize affects the text as you describe. If it is OFF, then resize applies to
> the background. Or we could use shift-resize to affect the background.
>
> Subbu

In any case someone needs to open a ticket at

http://tracker.squeakland.org/

otherwise all the good ideas get forgotten :)

- Bert -

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Karl Ramberg

Re: 2 for Etoys5

In reply to this post by Randy Caton

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Randall Caton <[hidden email]> wrote:

Here are two suggestions regarding the next version of etoys:

1. If you add a new collaboration tool, I have had many teachers impressed with certain ways that Nebraska worked: they liked the receiver and ears and the fact that you could drop anything onto the badge (including an etoy with scripts) to send it to someone. I also think making the IP address visible was valuable.

I think we should check out NetMorph as a possible replacement for Nebraska
http://swikis.ddo.jp/NetMorph

It does automatic detection in the same network segment.
One can group users next to each other.
Send morphs with scripts or with drag and drop.

One thing they have done is that each morph is identified with a UUID in the scriptor so you can remotely control objects. This adds overhead in textual editing of scripts that have to be resolved, since typing in a UUID to reference a morph i a little hefty... Maybe a drag and drop UUID reference could be be made.

Anyway, this document give a good overview

ftp://swikis.ddo.jp/NetMorph/doc/NetMorphC5.pdf

Karl

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K. K. Subramaniam

Re: 2 for Etoys5

In reply to this post by Bert Freudenberg

On Friday 20 November 2009 04:53:35 pm Bert Freudenberg wrote:

> On 20.11.2009, at 08:22, K. K. Subramaniam wrote:
> > Unlike other basic morphs, TextMorph has both background (page/layout)
> > and foreground elements (paragraphs). So the resize and color buttons are
> > ambiguous. Do the buttons affect background or the para style?
> >
> > I suppose the autoFit option could be used to disambiguate - if it is ON,
> > then resize affects the text as you describe. If it is OFF, then resize
> > applies to the background. Or we could use shift-resize to affect the
> > background.
>
> In any case someone needs to open a ticket at
>
> http://tracker.squeakland.org/
>

Done . http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-617 .. Subbu
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