[3.9-final-7067][SqueakMap Package Loader] Can't install AST

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[3.9-final-7067][SqueakMap Package Loader] Can't install AST

iakovz
Hi there,

I've tried to install AST from the SqueakMap with latest
Squeak3.9-final-7067
Here are step I did
1. Opened squeak ./ Squeak3.9-final-7067.image
2. Opened SqueakMap Package Loader
3. Found AST entry
4. Pressed middle mouse button
5. Selected install
and BOOM! Squeak exited and left me with the message "Pollable event" in
the terminal :(

My configuration as follows

$ uname -a
SunOS iru 5.10 Generic_118855-14 i86pc i386 i86pc

bash-3.00$ squeak -version
3.9-8 #6 Tue Oct 10 21:00:28 PDT 2006 gcc 3.4.3
Squeak3.9alpha of 4 July 2005 [latest update: #7021]
SunOS solaris 5.10 Generic_118844-26 i86pc i386 i86pc
default plugin location: /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.9-8/*.so

Squeak Image: Squeak3.9-final-7067.zip (ftp.squeak.org)

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Re: [3.9-final-7067][SqueakMap Package Loader] Can't install AST

iakovz
stephane ducasse wrote:
> Did you read the comments of the package because it seems to me that
> you should pay attention to the dependency
Huh. Wherein should I pay attention to the dependencies? SqueakMap
Package Loader holds them automatically. I've tried to install another
package (Refactoring Engine) with same result

    $ squeak ./Squeak3.9-final-7067.image
    <VM exited>
    Pollable event

Is there anybody else here with Solaris? Do you experience same trouble?



> I do not have the time to check now.
>
> Stef
>
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I've tried to install AST from the SqueakMap with latest
>> Squeak3.9-final-7067
>> Here are step I did
>> 1. Opened squeak ./ Squeak3.9-final-7067.image
>> 2. Opened SqueakMap Package Loader
>> 3. Found AST entry
>> 4. Pressed middle mouse button
>> 5. Selected install
>> and BOOM! Squeak exited and left me with the message "Pollable event"
>> in the terminal :(
>>
>> My configuration as follows
>>
>> $ uname -a
>> SunOS iru 5.10 Generic_118855-14 i86pc i386 i86pc
>>
>> bash-3.00$ squeak -version
>> 3.9-8 #6 Tue Oct 10 21:00:28 PDT 2006 gcc 3.4.3
>> Squeak3.9alpha of 4 July 2005 [latest update: #7021]
>> SunOS solaris 5.10 Generic_118844-26 i86pc i386 i86pc
>> default plugin location: /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.9-8/*.so
>>
>> Squeak Image: Squeak3.9-final-7067.zip (ftp.squeak.org)
>>
>> --
>> With best regards, Yakov Zaytsev <[hidden email]>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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Re: [3.9-final-7067][SqueakMap Package Loader] Can't install AST

David T. Lewis
In reply to this post by iakovz
On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 01:44:39AM -0300, Yakov Zaytsev wrote:

>
> I've tried to install AST from the SqueakMap with latest
> Squeak3.9-final-7067
> Here are step I did
> 1. Opened squeak ./ Squeak3.9-final-7067.image
> 2. Opened SqueakMap Package Loader
> 3. Found AST entry
> 4. Pressed middle mouse button
> 5. Selected install
> and BOOM! Squeak exited and left me with the message "Pollable event" in
> the terminal :(

I tried loading AST from SqueakMap into Squeak3.9-final-7067.image
on a Linux box, exactly as you described above. It worked fine,
so I think this may be a VM issue on Solaris.

> My configuration as follows
>
> $ uname -a
> SunOS iru 5.10 Generic_118855-14 i86pc i386 i86pc
>
> bash-3.00$ squeak -version
> 3.9-8 #6 Tue Oct 10 21:00:28 PDT 2006 gcc 3.4.3
> Squeak3.9alpha of 4 July 2005 [latest update: #7021]
> SunOS solaris 5.10 Generic_118844-26 i86pc i386 i86pc
> default plugin location: /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.9-8/*.so
>
> Squeak Image: Squeak3.9-final-7067.zip (ftp.squeak.org)

I'm not very familiar with SunOS, but I assume you are running
on a 32 bit processor and your SunOS is a 32 bit system (32 bit
pointer size), is that right? If it's a 64 bit system, there could
be some issues, for example <http://bugs.impara.de/view.php?id=5688>.

If it does turn out to be a VM issue, the vm-dev list is a good
place to follow up.

Dave


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[3.9-final-7067][SqueakMap Package Loader] Can't install AST

iakovz
In reply to this post by iakovz
Thanks for the pointer, guys!

Dave, I'm on 32 bit.
Stef, I do use default image taken from the Squeak.org.
I think I should really follow up to vm-dev mail list

Thanks

PS Sorry, I've forgotten to CC to the squeak-dev..

2007/1/7, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]>:

> may be you should try with a default image and use the squeaksource
> file.
> Squeaksource is better than Squeak map for certain operation.
> Have a look at my video if you do not know how to use Monticello
> http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~ducasse/Videos/
>
> Stef
>
> On 7 janv. 07, at 15:58, Yakov wrote:
>
> > Yes, I don't think that something is wrong with *some* package!
> > Exactly. I think something wrong with the network code or with
> > SqueakMap Loader itself. Because "Pollable event" signals incorrect
> > I/O handling in some situations IIRC. But you never know..
> >
> > PS I'm on Solaris
> >
> > 2007/1/7, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]>:
> >>
> >> On 07.01.2007, at 09:18, stephane ducasse wrote:
> >>
> >> > Did you read the comments of the package because it seems to me
> >> > that you should pay attention to the dependency
> >> > I do not have the time to check now.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I checked: I have no problem installing th package AST in 3.9... (on
> >> MacOS). AST has only two overrides that
> >> should not be called when installing, so I don't think that the AST
> >> package causes the crash.
> >>
> >>         Marcus
> >>
> >> > Stef
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Hi there,
> >> >>
> >> >> I've tried to install AST from the SqueakMap with latest
> >> Squeak3.9-
> >> >> final-7067
> >> >> Here are step I did
> >> >> 1. Opened squeak ./ Squeak3.9-final-7067.image
> >> >> 2. Opened SqueakMap Package Loader
> >> >> 3. Found AST entry
> >> >> 4. Pressed middle mouse button
> >> >> 5. Selected install
> >> >> and BOOM! Squeak exited and left me with the message "Pollable
> >> >> event" in the terminal :(
> >> >>
> >> >> My configuration as follows
> >> >>
> >> >> $ uname -a
> >> >> SunOS iru 5.10 Generic_118855-14 i86pc i386 i86pc
> >> >>
> >> >> bash-3.00$ squeak -version
> >> >> 3.9-8 #6 Tue Oct 10 21:00:28 PDT 2006 gcc 3.4.3
> >> >> Squeak3.9alpha of 4 July 2005 [latest update: #7021]
> >> >> SunOS solaris 5.10 Generic_118844-26 i86pc i386 i86pc
> >> >> default plugin location: /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.9-8/*.so
> >> >>
> >> >> Squeak Image: Squeak3.9-final-7067.zip (ftp.squeak.org)
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> With best regards, Yakov Zaytsev <[hidden email]>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > With best regards, Yakov Zaytsev [|] <[hidden email]>
> >
>
>


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Re: [3.9-final-7067][SqueakMap Package Loader] Can't install AST

Göran Krampe
Hi!

Yakov <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Thanks for the pointer, guys!
>
> Dave, I'm on 32 bit.
> Stef, I do use default image taken from the Squeak.org.
> I think I should really follow up to vm-dev mail list
>
> Thanks
>
> PS Sorry, I've forgotten to CC to the squeak-dev..
>
> 2007/1/7, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]>:
> > may be you should try with a default image and use the squeaksource
> > file.
> > Squeaksource is better than Squeak map for certain operation.
> > Have a look at my video if you do not know how to use Monticello
> > http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~ducasse/Videos/
> >
> > Stef

I would be VERY surprised if the described "BOOM" has anything to do
with SqueakMap. And the two advice given - to look at dependencies (what
has that got to do with anything?) and to use SqueakSource (again, what
has that got to do with it?) - are IMHO irrelevant. It is hardly ever
the "fault" of Squeak code that the VM goes boom.

What is more interesting is the memory issues that we have had in the
VM. Try running the Squeak VM with a memory limit and see if that
removes the issue - this has to do with the virtual placement of the
process in virtual memory IIRC.

This issue normally reared its ugly head when we did ImageSegment
loading - which SqueakMap does - but only when you update the map (not
when you install packages).

regards, Göran