3D desktop

he he, I sympathise. Sounds like an interrupt problem to me. I have used Linux and nVidea/ATI cards with Linux with no problem after setting up. What type of card do you have?

Derek O'Connell wrote:
> he he, I sympathise. Sounds like an interrupt problem to me. I have
> used Linux and nVidea/ATI cards with Linux with no problem after
> setting up. What type of card do you have?
and what driver are you using?

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Brad Fuller wrote:
> Derek O'Connell wrote:
>> he he, I sympathise. Sounds like an interrupt problem to me. I have
>> used Linux and nVidea/ATI cards with Linux with no problem after
>> setting up. What type of card do you have?

ATI R280, (9250) on a MSI board.

In discussions on the DRI list (I am using purely open source drivers),
the issue seems to have to do with the interaction between the driver
for the comparatively rare AMD 762 (Athlon MP) chipset. (Probably a bug
in the chipset driver that is triggered whenever I attempt to set up the
GART for OpenGL usage). =(

> and what driver are you using?

Open source, compiled automaticly from gentoo's portage tree.


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stéphane ducasse wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ODskdEPnQ
> Could be cool to use Genie for that....
>
> Stef
>
>
another interface:

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid271543545/bctid422563006

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Brad Fuller wrote: Pretty nice. I have always wanted a touch screen interface for a
computer. Interfacing with computers will change. Look at the success of
the Wii game platform. I'm not proclaiming the death of the mouse and
keyboard but I don't think they will play a major part in
the-next-computer-revolution(tm).
Karl

Karl wrote: My first question was: "how will a croquet user navigate?" I assumed
that you would just point and drag your finger where you wanted to move.
Actually, it might be a bit easier because you wouldn't have to traverse
the landscape if you just wanted to get somewhere -- maybe just place
your finger on the destination and you're there.



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Brad Fuller skrev: You can do this in Croquet now when you click on the down pointing arrow
on a portal.
karl

karl wrote:
yeah, but not if you want to go to the top of a mountain, right?

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A virtual joystic can be use for that (google earth use something like that
with nice keyboard bindings)

Cheers,

Sebastian


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Asunto: Re: 3D desktop

karl wrote:
yeah, but not if you want to go to the top of a mountain, right?

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On 12-Feb-07, at 10:28 AM, Brad Fuller wrote:

> stéphane ducasse wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ODskdEPnQ
>> Could be cool to use Genie for that....

I actually dislike this - the movie has been a round for a while and  
it hasn't grown on me. 'messy desk' might have been a reasonable  
metaphor years ago in order to get people used to the idea of  
windowing computer interfaces but it isn't actually a *good* idea.  
This particular version is nothing more than making a video game out  
of moving stuff on your screen.

>>
> another interface:
>
> http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid271543545/bctid422563006

This on the other hand is actually an improvement in the UI. We tried  
to do a little of this multi-input stuff years ago on the ActiveBook  
- at Bill Atkinson's urging I believe - but had to do it via two  
quite separate input devices so it was never really very convincing.  
It will of course require non-trivial changes in how we arrange our  
hardware to be useful . Nobody is going to spend a day at work having  
to hold fingers up to typical displays and typical portables would  
need noticeable changes.

The shared aspect may turn out to be a major win as well. Imagine  
traffic control systems working like the demo, where a group of  
controllers can handle the traffic by moving objects around to block  
or permit access to airspace, direct to holding patterns, see the  
progress of all the traffic, etc etc.  Or perhaps group reviewing  
code, making scribble notes, passing blocks of code/notes around. Of  
course as always the real technology driver is likely to be making it  
easy and convenient to sort your porn collection.

tim
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tim Rowledge napsal(a): Well, I agree. But it shows something interesting in UI. I call it
live-gestures (maybe exists better name). It is different from summoning
gestures where drawing symbol call out some functions. It dynamically
shows what is happing during drawing the gestures and this gestures are
similar to touching a thing. No magic. No drawing symbols. Just
touching. I think Grail was first program that uses this kind of
gestures. No menu is needed for most actions. Menu could be there, but
gestures are shortcuts.
And this one... Nothing to say. Genial. I like it :)

    Adam