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Please, don't take it as a offense, but as a constructive critics :)
Pharo-core browser is awfully slooow! That's why i prefer to develop in squeak trunk image. Why it showing the distracting hourglass cursor when stepping over a list of methods in method's list? (press and hold the up arrow key when inside a methods list)... damn.. what happens there, that it consumes so much time to just switch the source code in a single text pane? -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > Please, don't take it as a offense, but as a constructive critics :) > > Pharo-core browser is awfully slooow! > Pharo core? Or Pharo dev? Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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2010/1/20 Marcus Denker <[hidden email]>:
> > On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> Please, don't take it as a offense, but as a constructive critics :) >> >> Pharo-core browser is awfully slooow! >> > Pharo core? Or Pharo dev? > core > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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In 1.1?
Stef >>> Please, don't take it as a offense, but as a constructive critics :) >>> >>> Pharo-core browser is awfully slooow! can you provide some reproducable data? that we can compare? >>> >> Pharo core? Or Pharo dev? >> > core _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > 2010/1/20 Marcus Denker <[hidden email]>: >> >> On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >> >>> Please, don't take it as a offense, but as a constructive critics :) >>> >>> Pharo-core browser is awfully slooow! >>> >> Pharo core? Or Pharo dev? >> > core It should not... it uses the fast fonts, no syntax highligting... In essense, it should be the same performance than Squeak 3.9. Is it slower than that? I can not see any problem (the curse of a fast machine?) Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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>> core > > It should not... it uses the fast fonts, no syntax highligting... > In essense, it should be the same performance than Squeak 3.9. even better because Morphic was optimized in 1.1 Stef _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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2010/1/20 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
> In 1.1? > > Stef >>>> Please, don't take it as a offense, but as a constructive critics :) >>>> >>>> Pharo-core browser is awfully slooow! > > can you provide some reproducable data? > that we can compare? > Sorry, but i have no time to prove the obvious. You could just start the trunk image at anytime and see it yourself. Two images running on same VM , same machine.. a lot of difference. >>>> >>> Pharo core? Or Pharo dev? >>> >> core > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > 2010/1/20 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>: >> In 1.1? >> >> Stef >>>>> Please, don't take it as a offense, but as a constructive critics :) >>>>> >>>>> Pharo-core browser is awfully slooow! >> >> can you provide some reproducable data? >> that we can compare? >> > > Sorry, but i have no time to prove the obvious. > You could just start the trunk image at anytime and see it yourself. > > Two images running on same VM , same machine.. a lot of difference. Maybe this is the caching of FileStream? This should make a difference on a slow machine... Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Super quick here... (1.1 latest updates, admittedly a quad-core, only one
used though...) Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcus Denker" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] A dog-slow browser > > On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> 2010/1/20 Marcus Denker <[hidden email]>: >>> >>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >>> >>>> Please, don't take it as a offense, but as a constructive critics :) >>>> >>>> Pharo-core browser is awfully slooow! >>>> >>> Pharo core? Or Pharo dev? >>> >> core > > It should not... it uses the fast fonts, no syntax highligting... > In essense, it should be the same performance than Squeak 3.9. > > Is it slower than that? I can not see any problem (the curse of a fast > machine?) > > Marcus > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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2010/1/20 Marcus Denker <[hidden email]>:
> > On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> 2010/1/20 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>: >>> In 1.1? >>> >>> Stef >>>>>> Please, don't take it as a offense, but as a constructive critics :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Pharo-core browser is awfully slooow! >>> >>> can you provide some reproducable data? >>> that we can compare? >>> >> >> Sorry, but i have no time to prove the obvious. >> You could just start the trunk image at anytime and see it yourself. >> >> Two images running on same VM , same machine.. a lot of difference. > > > > Maybe this is the caching of FileStream? This should make a difference on a slow > machine... > And i wouldn't say that my machine is slow CPU0: AMD Phenom(tm) 8450 Triple-Core Processor stepping 03 '85618729 bytecodes/sec; 4708854 sends/sec' > Marcus > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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2010/1/20 Gary Chambers <[hidden email]>:
> Super quick here... (1.1 latest updates, admittedly a quad-core, only one > used though...) I have to take my words back. Strange, very strange.. its now magically started working quite fast.. As i said, first time i run it, it was flickering the hourglass mouse cursor each time i switching between methods in browser. What was it? And why it disappears? Any suggestions? > > Regards, Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marcus Denker" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:47 PM > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] A dog-slow browser > > >> >> On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >> >>> 2010/1/20 Marcus Denker <[hidden email]>: >>>> >>>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >>>> >>>>> Please, don't take it as a offense, but as a constructive critics :) >>>>> >>>>> Pharo-core browser is awfully slooow! >>>>> >>>> Pharo core? Or Pharo dev? >>>> >>> core >> >> It should not... it uses the fast fonts, no syntax highligting... >> In essense, it should be the same performance than Squeak 3.9. >> >> Is it slower than that? I can not see any problem (the curse of a fast >> machine?) >> >> Marcus >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Jan 20, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >> >> >> Maybe this is the caching of FileStream? This should make a difference on a slow >> machine... >> > Caching should in contrary increase the speed, isnt? Yes, Squeak does it, Pharo not (yet). > And i wouldn't say that my machine is slow > CPU0: AMD Phenom(tm) 8450 Triple-Core Processor stepping 03 > '85618729 bytecodes/sec; 4708854 sends/sec' > Hmm.. the bytecode/sec look strange. Mine is a factor 5 faster, and it's just a Core2Duo 2.5Ghz: '419328419 bytecodes/sec; 11484087 sends/sec' Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Shouldn't be obvious I guess
(1 tinyBenchmarks '566998892 bytecodes/sec; 16433596 sends/sec') here. Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Igor Stasenko" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] A dog-slow browser > 2010/1/20 Marcus Denker <[hidden email]>: >> >> On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >> >>> 2010/1/20 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>: >>>> In 1.1? >>>> >>>> Stef >>>>>>> Please, don't take it as a offense, but as a constructive critics :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pharo-core browser is awfully slooow! >>>> >>>> can you provide some reproducable data? >>>> that we can compare? >>>> >>> >>> Sorry, but i have no time to prove the obvious. >>> You could just start the trunk image at anytime and see it yourself. >>> >>> Two images running on same VM , same machine.. a lot of difference. >> >> >> >> Maybe this is the caching of FileStream? This should make a difference on >> a slow >> machine... >> > Caching should in contrary increase the speed, isnt? > And i wouldn't say that my machine is slow > CPU0: AMD Phenom(tm) 8450 Triple-Core Processor stepping 03 > '85618729 bytecodes/sec; 4708854 sends/sec' > > >> Marcus >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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A good few months back I noticed similarly inexplicable slowness (that I
mistakenly ascribed to some changes...). Went away after image save/restart... maybe that kind of thing has happened. Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Igor Stasenko" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] A dog-slow browser > 2010/1/20 Gary Chambers <[hidden email]>: >> Super quick here... (1.1 latest updates, admittedly a quad-core, only one >> used though...) > > I have to take my words back. > Strange, very strange.. its now magically started working quite fast.. > As i said, first time i run it, it was flickering the hourglass mouse > cursor each time i switching between methods in browser. > What was it? And why it disappears? Any suggestions? > >> >> Regards, Gary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marcus Denker" <[hidden email]> >> To: <[hidden email]> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] A dog-slow browser >> >> >>> >>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >>> >>>> 2010/1/20 Marcus Denker <[hidden email]>: >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Please, don't take it as a offense, but as a constructive critics :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Pharo-core browser is awfully slooow! >>>>>> >>>>> Pharo core? Or Pharo dev? >>>>> >>>> core >>> >>> It should not... it uses the fast fonts, no syntax highligting... >>> In essense, it should be the same performance than Squeak 3.9. >>> >>> Is it slower than that? I can not see any problem (the curse of a fast >>> machine?) >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> -- >>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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just a wild guess: maybe its a GC edge case?
When it happens, trigger a full GC and see if it is still slow... Adrian On Jan 20, 2010, at 17:26 , Gary Chambers wrote: > A good few months back I noticed similarly inexplicable slowness (that I > mistakenly ascribed to some changes...). Went away after image > save/restart... maybe that kind of thing has happened. > > Regards, Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Igor Stasenko" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:16 PM > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] A dog-slow browser > > >> 2010/1/20 Gary Chambers <[hidden email]>: >>> Super quick here... (1.1 latest updates, admittedly a quad-core, only one >>> used though...) >> >> I have to take my words back. >> Strange, very strange.. its now magically started working quite fast.. >> As i said, first time i run it, it was flickering the hourglass mouse >> cursor each time i switching between methods in browser. >> What was it? And why it disappears? Any suggestions? >> >>> >>> Regards, Gary >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Marcus Denker" <[hidden email]> >>> To: <[hidden email]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:47 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] A dog-slow browser >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >>>> >>>>> 2010/1/20 Marcus Denker <[hidden email]>: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Please, don't take it as a offense, but as a constructive critics :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pharo-core browser is awfully slooow! >>>>>>> >>>>>> Pharo core? Or Pharo dev? >>>>>> >>>>> core >>>> >>>> It should not... it uses the fast fonts, no syntax highligting... >>>> In essense, it should be the same performance than Squeak 3.9. >>>> >>>> Is it slower than that? I can not see any problem (the curse of a fast >>>> machine?) >>>> >>>> Marcus >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >>>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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2010/1/20 Gary Chambers <[hidden email]>:
> A good few months back I noticed similarly inexplicable slowness (that I > mistakenly ascribed to some changes...). Went away after image > save/restart... maybe that kind of thing has happened. > Well i just started a fresh image, didn't done anything yet with it, just opened a browser.. But now, i tried to reproduce the same, by starting a very same image, and its magically behaves much faster.. > Regards, Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Igor Stasenko" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:16 PM > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] A dog-slow browser > > >> 2010/1/20 Gary Chambers <[hidden email]>: >>> Super quick here... (1.1 latest updates, admittedly a quad-core, only one >>> used though...) >> >> I have to take my words back. >> Strange, very strange.. its now magically started working quite fast.. >> As i said, first time i run it, it was flickering the hourglass mouse >> cursor each time i switching between methods in browser. >> What was it? And why it disappears? Any suggestions? >> >>> >>> Regards, Gary >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Marcus Denker" <[hidden email]> >>> To: <[hidden email]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:47 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] A dog-slow browser >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >>>> >>>>> 2010/1/20 Marcus Denker <[hidden email]>: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Please, don't take it as a offense, but as a constructive critics :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pharo-core browser is awfully slooow! >>>>>>> >>>>>> Pharo core? Or Pharo dev? >>>>>> >>>>> core >>>> >>>> It should not... it uses the fast fonts, no syntax highligting... >>>> In essense, it should be the same performance than Squeak 3.9. >>>> >>>> Is it slower than that? I can not see any problem (the curse of a fast >>>> machine?) >>>> >>>> Marcus >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >>>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Adrian Lienhard <[hidden email]> wrote: just a wild guess: maybe its a GC edge case? how do you do that Adrian ? Adrian _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Smalltalk garbageCollect
On Jan 20, 2010, at 17:37 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Adrian Lienhard <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> just a wild guess: maybe its a GC edge case? >> >> When it happens, trigger a full GC and see if it is still slow... >> >> > how do you do that Adrian ? > > >> Adrian >> >> On Jan 20, 2010, at 17:26 , Gary Chambers wrote: >> >>> A good few months back I noticed similarly inexplicable slowness (that I >>> mistakenly ascribed to some changes...). Went away after image >>> save/restart... maybe that kind of thing has happened. >>> >>> Regards, Gary >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Igor Stasenko" <[hidden email]> >>> To: <[hidden email]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:16 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] A dog-slow browser >>> >>> >>>> 2010/1/20 Gary Chambers <[hidden email]>: >>>>> Super quick here... (1.1 latest updates, admittedly a quad-core, only >> one >>>>> used though...) >>>> >>>> I have to take my words back. >>>> Strange, very strange.. its now magically started working quite fast.. >>>> As i said, first time i run it, it was flickering the hourglass mouse >>>> cursor each time i switching between methods in browser. >>>> What was it? And why it disappears? Any suggestions? >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, Gary >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Marcus Denker" <[hidden email]> >>>>> To: <[hidden email]> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:47 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] A dog-slow browser >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> 2010/1/20 Marcus Denker <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please, don't take it as a offense, but as a constructive critics >> :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pharo-core browser is awfully slooow! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pharo core? Or Pharo dev? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> core >>>>>> >>>>>> It should not... it uses the fast fonts, no syntax highligting... >>>>>> In essense, it should be the same performance than Squeak 3.9. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is it slower than that? I can not see any problem (the curse of a fast >>>>>> machine?) >>>>>> >>>>>> Marcus >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >>>>>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Adrian Lienhard <[hidden email]> wrote: Smalltalk garbageCollect hahahaha sorry. As you said "a full GC" I imagined that there was another kind of GC (like gemstine) that I was not aware of :)
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In reply to this post by Igor Stasenko
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Igor Stasenko wrote:
> 2010/1/20 Gary Chambers <[hidden email]>: >> A good few months back I noticed similarly inexplicable slowness (that I >> mistakenly ascribed to some changes...). Went away after image >> save/restart... maybe that kind of thing has happened. >> > > Well i just started a fresh image, didn't done anything yet with it, > just opened a browser.. > > But now, i tried to reproduce the same, by starting a very same image, > and its magically behaves much faster.. Open a browser, select Morph, don't select a category (-- all --), select the first method and press the down key. Levente > > >> Regards, Gary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Igor Stasenko" <[hidden email]> >> To: <[hidden email]> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] A dog-slow browser >> >> >>> 2010/1/20 Gary Chambers <[hidden email]>: >>>> Super quick here... (1.1 latest updates, admittedly a quad-core, only one >>>> used though...) >>> >>> I have to take my words back. >>> Strange, very strange.. its now magically started working quite fast.. >>> As i said, first time i run it, it was flickering the hourglass mouse >>> cursor each time i switching between methods in browser. >>> What was it? And why it disappears? Any suggestions? >>> >>>> >>>> Regards, Gary >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Marcus Denker" <[hidden email]> >>>> To: <[hidden email]> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:47 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] A dog-slow browser >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> 2010/1/20 Marcus Denker <[hidden email]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please, don't take it as a offense, but as a constructive critics :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pharo-core browser is awfully slooow! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pharo core? Or Pharo dev? >>>>>>> >>>>>> core >>>>> >>>>> It should not... it uses the fast fonts, no syntax highligting... >>>>> In essense, it should be the same performance than Squeak 3.9. >>>>> >>>>> Is it slower than that? I can not see any problem (the curse of a fast >>>>> machine?) >>>>> >>>>> Marcus >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >>>>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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