Hi, all! :-)
On behalf of Hannes Hirzel, who is our release manager for Squeak 5.3 (http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/275), I am happy to announce the
next feature freeze. It will be this Sunday, December 8, 2019.
(Hannes is quite busy these days. During the past months, we exchanged many thoughts on this release. So let us make it happen! I am sure he will pop up on the squeak-dev list soon again.)
During that freeze (aka. beta phase), we want to focus on bug hunting; new features will be collected in the inbox only (http://source.squeak.org/inbox/).
We are eager to push out this release until Christmas. 2019! ;-) So the freeze will hopefully be over on December 24. Maybe earlier.
So, if you update you local Trunk image on Monday morning, it should show "Squeak 5.3beta" instead of:
<img id="7f551602-604d-4703-85ea-e12807b53c8e" width="auto" src="mailbird://attachments/26693">
Where do you get a fresh Squeak Trunk image to test?
-> or http://files.squeak.org/trunk/ (the latest ones at the bottom)
-> or http://files.squeak.org/5.3beta/ (soon)
Which virtual machine (VM) should you use?
-> The version from Nov 28, 2019: https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/releases/tag/201911282316
-> That version will be already in all 5.3beta bundles that have a VM bundled within.
-> Double check via Help > About Squeak:
<img id="323fcc5a-0e9b-4031-b6b5-11da9deeb4b6" width="auto" src="mailbird://attachments/26696">
What should you test?
-> Both 32-bit and 64-bit versions. If possible on macOS, Windows, and Linux operating systems.
-> Hannes suggested a focus on Squeak's Etoys features. Here are some pointers:
-> The preference wizard that pops up at the beginning in a fresh image.
-> Bugs listed in Mantis (http://bugs.squeak.org/view_all_bug_page.php) that are still there and really annoying.
-> Grammar/spelling issues in all kinds of texts such as in buttons, menus, help topics, release notes, tutorials (http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/792) etc.
Where should you report the bugs?
-> First, make sure you are working on the latest Trunk version! (Squeak > Update)
-> Please post any bugs directly on the squeak-dev list.
What about SistaV1; is it ready?
-> No, it will not be enabled by default in Squeak 5.3. After the release, we plan to immediately switch the regular Trunk from V3 to SistaV1 to do more tests. Please do all tests using the default V3-with-closures bytecode set. Meaning, just use the ones from
files.squeak.org as described above.
How can I dive into Etoys; where is it?
-> It is already available in the form of any morph's tile halo. However, the following code snippet will turn your image into an Etoys station:
ReleaseBuilderSqueakland intermediatePrepareForUsers.
Preferences
disable: #noviceMode;
enable: #generalizedYellowButtonMenu;
enable: #showAdvancedNavigatorButtons;
disable: #eToyFriendly.
TheWorldMainDockingBar showWorldMainDockingBar: true.
Have fun and thank you all for your support! :-)
Best,
Marcel
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Hi Marcel,
On Dec 6, 2019, at 1:52 AM, Taeumel, Marcel <[hidden email]> wrote:
So, given that I’ve been using SistaV1 for over a year and fixed the last bytecode compiler issue several months ago (I’ll dig out the Monticello commits soon) I’m confident that we are in fact ready for Sista V1. Can we please enable it by default. I’mconfident that there are no serious issues left with SistaV1 and after a difficult year I have my energy back and feel confident I can address any issues that do come up promptly.
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Hi EToys folks, On Dec 6, 2019, at 6:55 AM, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> wrote:
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In reply to this post by marcel.taeumel
Hi all, Hi Marcel!
> * http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1183 What are the exact goals of these tests? Is it about reporting a maximum number of bugs (in order to fix each of them at any time), or rather about gaining an overall impression of the failure rate?
Only having tested the first project, I can tell you of four separate bugs. Please see the attached bug documentation. Does this doc match your expectations of testing granularity, or should I
a) go into greater detail (and even try to fix the bugs), or
b) be more perfunctory and only check whether a project runs without errors?
Best, Christoph Von: Squeak-dev <[hidden email]> im Auftrag von Taeumel, Marcel
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019 17:01:30 An: John Pfersich via Squeak-dev Betreff: [squeak-dev] [ANN] Feature Freeze on Sunday, December 8, 2019
Hi, all! :-)
On behalf of Hannes Hirzel, who is our release manager for Squeak 5.3 (http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/275), I am happy to announce the
next feature freeze. It will be this Sunday, December 8, 2019.
(Hannes is quite busy these days. During the past months, we exchanged many thoughts on this release. So let us make it happen! I am sure he will pop up on the squeak-dev list soon again.)
During that freeze (aka. beta phase), we want to focus on bug hunting; new features will be collected in the inbox only (http://source.squeak.org/inbox/).
We are eager to push out this release until Christmas. 2019! ;-) So the freeze will hopefully be over on December 24. Maybe earlier.
So, if you update you local Trunk image on Monday morning, it should show "Squeak 5.3beta" instead of:
<img id="7f551602-604d-4703-85ea-e12807b53c8e" width="auto" src="mailbird://attachments/26693">
Where do you get a fresh Squeak Trunk image to test?
-> or http://files.squeak.org/trunk/ (the latest ones at the bottom)
-> or http://files.squeak.org/5.3beta/ (soon)
Which virtual machine (VM) should you use?
-> The version from Nov 28, 2019: https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/releases/tag/201911282316
-> That version will be already in all 5.3beta bundles that have a VM bundled within.
-> Double check via Help > About Squeak:
<img id="323fcc5a-0e9b-4031-b6b5-11da9deeb4b6" width="auto" src="mailbird://attachments/26696">
What should you test?
-> Both 32-bit and 64-bit versions. If possible on macOS, Windows, and Linux operating systems.
-> Hannes suggested a focus on Squeak's Etoys features. Here are some pointers:
-> The preference wizard that pops up at the beginning in a fresh image.
-> Bugs listed in Mantis (http://bugs.squeak.org/view_all_bug_page.php) that are still there and really annoying.
-> Grammar/spelling issues in all kinds of texts such as in buttons, menus, help topics, release notes, tutorials (http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/792) etc.
Where should you report the bugs?
-> First, make sure you are working on the latest Trunk version! (Squeak > Update)
-> Please post any bugs directly on the squeak-dev list.
What about SistaV1; is it ready?
-> No, it will not be enabled by default in Squeak 5.3. After the release, we plan to immediately switch the regular Trunk from V3 to SistaV1 to do more tests. Please do all tests using the default V3-with-closures bytecode set. Meaning, just use the ones from
files.squeak.org as described above.
How can I dive into Etoys; where is it?
-> It is already available in the form of any morph's tile halo. However, the following code snippet will turn your image into an Etoys station:
ReleaseBuilderSqueakland intermediatePrepareForUsers.
Preferences
disable: #noviceMode;
enable: #generalizedYellowButtonMenu;
enable: #showAdvancedNavigatorButtons;
disable: #eToyFriendly.
TheWorldMainDockingBar showWorldMainDockingBar: true.
Have fun and thank you all for your support! :-)
Best,
Marcel
Etoys testing report.md (1K) Download Attachment
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Hi all,
I'm collecting further errors that are raised when loading Etoys projects. See current progress here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XxlCzenZaUbcIhhorpuji6hvOFzonoXl8ahSwAO7B6I/edit?usp=sharing
Christoph
Von: Squeak-dev <[hidden email]> im Auftrag von Thiede, Christoph
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. Dezember 2019 12:35 Uhr An: John Pfersich via Squeak-dev; Taeumel, Marcel Betreff: Re: [squeak-dev] [ANN] Feature Freeze on Sunday, December 8, 2019 Hi all, Hi Marcel!
> * http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1183 What are the exact goals of these tests? Is it about reporting a maximum number of bugs (in order to fix each of them at any time), or rather about gaining an overall impression of the failure rate?
Only having tested the first project, I can tell you of four separate bugs. Please see the attached bug documentation. Does this doc match your expectations of testing granularity, or should I
a) go into greater detail (and even try to fix the bugs), or
b) be more perfunctory and only check whether a project runs without errors?
Best, Christoph Von: Squeak-dev <[hidden email]> im Auftrag von Taeumel, Marcel
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019 17:01:30 An: John Pfersich via Squeak-dev Betreff: [squeak-dev] [ANN] Feature Freeze on Sunday, December 8, 2019
Hi, all! :-)
On behalf of Hannes Hirzel, who is our release manager for Squeak 5.3 (http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/275), I am happy to announce the next
feature freeze. It will be this Sunday, December 8, 2019.
(Hannes is quite busy these days. During the past months, we exchanged many thoughts on this release. So let us make it happen! I am sure he will pop up on the squeak-dev list soon again.)
During that freeze (aka. beta phase), we want to focus on bug hunting; new features will be collected in the inbox only (http://source.squeak.org/inbox/).
We are eager to push out this release until Christmas. 2019! ;-) So the freeze will hopefully be over on December 24. Maybe earlier.
So, if you update you local Trunk image on Monday morning, it should show "Squeak 5.3beta" instead of:
Where do you get a fresh Squeak Trunk image to test?
-> or http://files.squeak.org/trunk/ (the latest ones at the bottom)
-> or http://files.squeak.org/5.3beta/ (soon)
Which virtual machine (VM) should you use?
-> The version from Nov 28, 2019: https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/releases/tag/201911282316
-> That version will be already in all 5.3beta bundles that have a VM bundled within.
-> Double check via Help > About Squeak:
What should you test?
-> Both 32-bit and 64-bit versions. If possible on macOS, Windows, and Linux operating systems.
-> Hannes suggested a focus on Squeak's Etoys features. Here are some pointers:
-> The preference wizard that pops up at the beginning in a fresh image.
-> Bugs listed in Mantis (http://bugs.squeak.org/view_all_bug_page.php) that are still there and really annoying.
-> Grammar/spelling issues in all kinds of texts such as in buttons, menus, help topics, release notes, tutorials (http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/792) etc.
Where should you report the bugs?
-> First, make sure you are working on the latest Trunk version! (Squeak > Update)
-> Please post any bugs directly on the squeak-dev list.
What about SistaV1; is it ready?
-> No, it will not be enabled by default in Squeak 5.3. After the release, we plan to immediately switch the regular Trunk from V3 to SistaV1 to do more tests. Please do all tests using the default V3-with-closures bytecode set. Meaning, just use the ones from
files.squeak.org as described above.
How can I dive into Etoys; where is it?
-> It is already available in the form of any morph's tile halo. However, the following code snippet will turn your image into an Etoys station:
ReleaseBuilderSqueakland intermediatePrepareForUsers.
Preferences
disable: #noviceMode;
enable: #generalizedYellowButtonMenu;
enable: #showAdvancedNavigatorButtons;
disable: #eToyFriendly.
TheWorldMainDockingBar showWorldMainDockingBar: true.
Have fun and thank you all for your support! :-)
Best,
Marcel
Carpe Squeak!
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