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Here http://squeakros.org/FunSqueak4dot6.zip You have a 4.6 version with your BabyIDE into. Also have lots of things I decide named it Norge, for obvious reasons. And you and your friends are welcomed for any questions. Edgar De: Trygve Reenskaug <[hidden email]> Responder a: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <[hidden email]> Fecha: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 18:07:21 +0200 Para: Chris Cunnington <[hidden email]> CC: Any question about pharo is welcome <[hidden email]>, The general-purpose Squeak developers list <[hidden email]> Asunto: [squeak-dev] Re: Mac Squeak binary virtual machine for Squeak 3.10.2 Hi Chris, I'm sorry to say that your advice didn't work. Worse: The Squeak community has lost a valuable contributor, a prime mover in the patterns and agile communities and the author of several books on OO. My friend wrote: " I still can¹t find a version of Squeak for my Mac that will run Trygve¹s current BabyIDE. At this point, even if one appears, it is obvious that my dependence on ³the introvert Squeak community² will put me in a much more fragile position than with any of my other concept proofs. It will be extremely difficult to build a future on such fragile foundations." I came to Xerox PARC and Smalltalk in 1978 where I made my contributions to Smalltalk-80. Since then, I have been working almost exclusively with Smalltalk. My company invested in a VW class library of more than 100,000 lines of Smalltalk code and used it in our consulting. A strong selling point was that our tenders were accompanied by a demo version of the program we offered to deliver. Our library and applications were repeatedly threatened by new versions of VW. The code is now dead; there is no VM that will run our old images. The investment is lost. I hoped Squeak would be better. It isn't. Squeak is less stable than VW ever was. My new programming paradigm, DCI, is supported by BabyIDE that runs under Squeak 3.10. I have ported BabyIDE to 4.5, but there are new bugs caused by differences between 3.10 and 4.5. The result is that I have reverted to 3.10 because it's too much hassle to run after the stream of Squeak releases. I thought Pharo would be better, but their mailing list conversations indicate that they do not understand that developers need a stable foundation for their work. The result is that I too leave Smalltalk and concentrate on other environments. A pity, because I still believe Smalltalk has the potential to become a superior environment for non-professional programmers. I am particularly thinking of children and experts such as computational chemists who use computers in their work. It's very painful, but I am now terminating development work in Squeak leave the Squeak and Pharo mailing lists. I will continue my work in some mainstream language. I have just done some work in Java with Netbeans and I am buying a book on JavaScript. It's heavy going, but better that working for the dustbin. Cheers --Trygve On 31.05.2015 16:52, Trygve Reenskaug wrote: Hi, A friend of mine is doing some experiments using a Mac and my program Baby IDE. BabyIDE is works under Squeak 3.10.2. Is there a binary virtual machine for a current Mac that he can use? On 31.05.2015 17:00, Chris Cunnington wrote: > You need a non-Cog vm. I usually download any Etoys vm. [1] > From there, drag it onto the vm or right click, choose ³Open With² and choose > Etoys. > > > > > Chris > > > > > [1] http://squeakland.org/download/ > |
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