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Re: [ANN] Squeak 5.3 RC2

Christoph Thiede

Hi Marcel,


looks great to me! :-) Here are some notes:


  • After playing around a few minutes with the fresh image, I got an error message in the Recent Changes.
    All I did was 1) to evaluate some code and 2) to select the "startup" line:

  • I took a closer look at [Smalltalk allClasses gather: #classPool] and found the following possibly important entries:

    • You might want to be even more aggressive when cleaning the Clipboard variables :)
    • Interestingly, there are still some relicts of The Worlds of Squeak in our 5.3 release candidate:

      The latter is no problem at all, just an amazing fact I did not want to hide from you :D


And some questions:


  • Is it intended that the RC still has its update URL set to http://source.squeak.org/trunk and that it does not use HTTPS?
  • Do we need a nested folder in the ZIP file for Windows? IMHO this makes file paths unnecessarily long (91 characters ...).


Best,
Christoph


Von: Squeak-dev <[hidden email]> im Auftrag von Taeumel, Marcel
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 18:08 Uhr
An: John Pfersich via Squeak-dev
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Re: [ANN] Squeak 5.3 RC2

Christoph Thiede





Von: Thiede, Christoph
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 19:42 Uhr
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Hi Marcel,


looks great to me! :-) Here are some notes:


  • After playing around a few minutes with the fresh image, I got an error message in the Recent Changes.
    All I did was 1) to evaluate some code and 2) to select the "startup" line:

  • I took a closer look at [Smalltalk allClasses gather: #classPool] and found the following possibly important entries:

    • You might want to be even more aggressive when cleaning the Clipboard variables :)
      Just fixed this one in the inbox.
    • Interestingly, there are still some relicts of The Worlds of Squeak in our 5.3 release candidate:

      The latter is no problem at all, just an amazing fact I did not want to hide from you :D


And some questions:


  • Is it intended that the RC still has its update URL set to http://source.squeak.org/trunk and that it does not use HTTPS?
  • Do we need a nested folder in the ZIP file for Windows? IMHO this makes file paths unnecessarily long (91 characters ...).


Best,
Christoph


Von: Squeak-dev <[hidden email]> im Auftrag von Taeumel, Marcel
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 18:08 Uhr
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Re: [ANN] Squeak 5.3 RC2

Christoph Thiede

And ... should we also cleanup EventStats in the HandMorph? Not really clean at the moment :-)




Best,

Christoph


Von: Thiede, Christoph
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 19:48:21
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Betreff: AW: [squeak-dev] [ANN] Squeak 5.3 RC2
 





Von: Thiede, Christoph
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 19:42 Uhr
An: John Pfersich via Squeak-dev
Betreff: AW: [squeak-dev] [ANN] Squeak 5.3 RC2
 

Hi Marcel,


looks great to me! :-) Here are some notes:


  • After playing around a few minutes with the fresh image, I got an error message in the Recent Changes.
    All I did was 1) to evaluate some code and 2) to select the "startup" line:

  • I took a closer look at [Smalltalk allClasses gather: #classPool] and found the following possibly important entries:

    • You might want to be even more aggressive when cleaning the Clipboard variables :)
      Just fixed this one in the inbox.
    • Interestingly, there are still some relicts of The Worlds of Squeak in our 5.3 release candidate:

      The latter is no problem at all, just an amazing fact I did not want to hide from you :D


And some questions:


  • Is it intended that the RC still has its update URL set to http://source.squeak.org/trunk and that it does not use HTTPS?
  • Do we need a nested folder in the ZIP file for Windows? IMHO this makes file paths unnecessarily long (91 characters ...).


Best,
Christoph


Von: Squeak-dev <[hidden email]> im Auftrag von Taeumel, Marcel
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 18:08 Uhr
An: John Pfersich via Squeak-dev
Betreff: [squeak-dev] [ANN] Squeak 5.3 RC2
 


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Re: [ANN] Squeak 5.3 RC2

David T. Lewis
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On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 06:08:14PM +0100, Marcel Taeumel wrote:
It looks really good to me :-)

Nice job on the release notes too, I know that it takes a lot of time to do this well.

Dave



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Re: [ANN] Squeak 5.3 RC2

marcel.taeumel
Hi, all!

It looks really good to me :-)
Nice job on the release notes too, I know that it takes a lot of time to do this well.

Thank you :-)

And ... should we also cleanup EventStats in the HandMorph?

Yes, I just added that.

 I got an error message in the Recent Changes.

Yeah, those "----" entries are no #doIt and thus no code. In this case the Scanner invoked the SqNumberParser on 5.3rc2, which failed. I just fixed that by setting those "----" entries to #misc instead of #doIt.



You might want to be even more aggressive when cleaning the Clipboard variables :)

Yes, I just did that.

> Just fixed this one in the inbox.

I did just change the clean-up without touching the Etoys package. It's a smaller fix. :-)

Interestingly, there are still some relicts of The Worlds of Squeak in our 5.3 release candidate:

Thanks for looking into it! :-)

Is it intended that the RC still has its update URL set to http://source.squeak.org/trunk and that it does not use HTTPS?

Yes and yes.

Do we need a nested folder in the ZIP file for Windows?

Yes. Best practice is that "extract here" should not spoil the directory you are currently in.

Best,
Marcel

Am 27.02.2020 01:13:52 schrieb David T. Lewis <[hidden email]>:

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 06:08:14PM +0100, Marcel Taeumel wrote:

> Here you go:
>
> http://files.squeak.org/5.3rc2/Squeak5.3rc2-19422-64bit/ [http://files.squeak.org/5.3rc2/Squeak5.3rc2-19422-64bit/]
>
> http://files.squeak.org/5.3rc2/Squeak5.3rc2-19422-32bit/ [http://files.squeak.org/5.3rc2/Squeak5.3rc2-19422-32bit/]
>
>
> :-)
>
> Best,
> Marcel
>

It looks really good to me :-)

Nice job on the release notes too, I know that it takes a lot of time to do this well.

Dave





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Re: [ANN] Squeak 5.3 RC2

marcel.taeumel
Hi all! :-)

Big thanks to Fabio! He managed to update the signing procedure (or rather hassle) for all RC2 bundles so that they can open quite normally on macOS Catalina 10.15.3.

I am sure that other projects depending on the OpenSmalltalkVM and smalltalkCI infrastructure can learn from this update as well.

While this is only required for 64-bit, 32-bit got also fresh signatures as well:

Am 27.02.2020 10:05:00 schrieb Marcel Taeumel <[hidden email]>:

Hi, all!

It looks really good to me :-)
Nice job on the release notes too, I know that it takes a lot of time to do this well.

Thank you :-)

And ... should we also cleanup EventStats in the HandMorph?

Yes, I just added that.

 I got an error message in the Recent Changes.

Yeah, those "----" entries are no #doIt and thus no code. In this case the Scanner invoked the SqNumberParser on 5.3rc2, which failed. I just fixed that by setting those "----" entries to #misc instead of #doIt.



You might want to be even more aggressive when cleaning the Clipboard variables :)

Yes, I just did that.

> Just fixed this one in the inbox.

I did just change the clean-up without touching the Etoys package. It's a smaller fix. :-)

Interestingly, there are still some relicts of The Worlds of Squeak in our 5.3 release candidate:

Thanks for looking into it! :-)

Is it intended that the RC still has its update URL set to http://source.squeak.org/trunk and that it does not use HTTPS?

Yes and yes.

Do we need a nested folder in the ZIP file for Windows?

Yes. Best practice is that "extract here" should not spoil the directory you are currently in.

Best,
Marcel

Am 27.02.2020 01:13:52 schrieb David T. Lewis <[hidden email]>:

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 06:08:14PM +0100, Marcel Taeumel wrote:

> Here you go:
>
> http://files.squeak.org/5.3rc2/Squeak5.3rc2-19422-64bit/ [http://files.squeak.org/5.3rc2/Squeak5.3rc2-19422-64bit/]
>
> http://files.squeak.org/5.3rc2/Squeak5.3rc2-19422-32bit/ [http://files.squeak.org/5.3rc2/Squeak5.3rc2-19422-32bit/]
>
>
> :-)
>
> Best,
> Marcel
>

It looks really good to me :-)

Nice job on the release notes too, I know that it takes a lot of time to do this well.

Dave





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Re: [ANN] Squeak 5.3 RC2

marcel.taeumel
... (hit send button to quickly) ...

http://files.squeak.org/5.3rc2/Squeak5.3rc2-19422-64bit/

Note that we had to change the program identifier as well, which can yield warnings in firewalls:


Also note that the fullscreen is still broken on macOS and will render the image unresponsive.

I will prepare RC3 today.

Best,
Marcel

Am 28.02.2020 09:53:13 schrieb Marcel Taeumel <[hidden email]>:

Hi all! :-)

Big thanks to Fabio! He managed to update the signing procedure (or rather hassle) for all RC2 bundles so that they can open quite normally on macOS Catalina 10.15.3.

I am sure that other projects depending on the OpenSmalltalkVM and smalltalkCI infrastructure can learn from this update as well.

While this is only required for 64-bit, 32-bit got also fresh signatures as well:

Am 27.02.2020 10:05:00 schrieb Marcel Taeumel <[hidden email]>:

Hi, all!

It looks really good to me :-)
Nice job on the release notes too, I know that it takes a lot of time to do this well.

Thank you :-)

And ... should we also cleanup EventStats in the HandMorph?

Yes, I just added that.

 I got an error message in the Recent Changes.

Yeah, those "----" entries are no #doIt and thus no code. In this case the Scanner invoked the SqNumberParser on 5.3rc2, which failed. I just fixed that by setting those "----" entries to #misc instead of #doIt.



You might want to be even more aggressive when cleaning the Clipboard variables :)

Yes, I just did that.

> Just fixed this one in the inbox.

I did just change the clean-up without touching the Etoys package. It's a smaller fix. :-)

Interestingly, there are still some relicts of The Worlds of Squeak in our 5.3 release candidate:

Thanks for looking into it! :-)

Is it intended that the RC still has its update URL set to http://source.squeak.org/trunk and that it does not use HTTPS?

Yes and yes.

Do we need a nested folder in the ZIP file for Windows?

Yes. Best practice is that "extract here" should not spoil the directory you are currently in.

Best,
Marcel

Am 27.02.2020 01:13:52 schrieb David T. Lewis <[hidden email]>:

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 06:08:14PM +0100, Marcel Taeumel wrote:

> Here you go:
>
> http://files.squeak.org/5.3rc2/Squeak5.3rc2-19422-64bit/ [http://files.squeak.org/5.3rc2/Squeak5.3rc2-19422-64bit/]
>
> http://files.squeak.org/5.3rc2/Squeak5.3rc2-19422-32bit/ [http://files.squeak.org/5.3rc2/Squeak5.3rc2-19422-32bit/]
>
>
> :-)
>
> Best,
> Marcel
>

It looks really good to me :-)

Nice job on the release notes too, I know that it takes a lot of time to do this well.

Dave