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Re: [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] January 2008 versions

Damien Cassou-3
On Jan 12, 2008 8:20 PM, Giovanni Corriga <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Damien Cassou ha scritto:
> > KomHttpServer version 7.0.30
> > KomServices version 1.12
>
> Err, where does this version number come from? The latest versions are
> 7.0.5 and 1.3.1 respectively.

They come from the Universe. I don't know who updated the Universe
(maybe Lukas?).

I think the .30 and .12 are numbered according to the SqueakSource
file name (KomHttpServer-gc.30.mcz and KomServices-gc.12.mcz).


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Re: [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] January 2008 versions

Giovanni Corriga
Damien Cassou ha scritto:

> On Jan 12, 2008 8:20 PM, Giovanni Corriga <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Damien Cassou ha scritto:
>>> KomHttpServer version 7.0.30
>>> KomServices version 1.12
>> Err, where does this version number come from? The latest versions are
>> 7.0.5 and 1.3.1 respectively.
>
> They come from the Universe. I don't know who updated the Universe
> (maybe Lukas?).
>
> I think the .30 and .12 are numbered according to the SqueakSource
> file name (KomHttpServer-gc.30.mcz and KomServices-gc.12.mcz).

So do I. Nonetheless, it should be consistent and use either the version
number or the monticello number, not a mix of the two.

        Giovanni


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Re: [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] January 2008 versions

Damien Cassou-3
On Jan 13, 2008 9:18 PM, Giovanni Corriga <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Damien Cassou ha scritto:
>
> > On Jan 12, 2008 8:20 PM, Giovanni Corriga <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> Damien Cassou ha scritto:
> >>> KomHttpServer version 7.0.30
> >>> KomServices version 1.12
> >> Err, where does this version number come from? The latest versions are
> >> 7.0.5 and 1.3.1 respectively.
> >
> > They come from the Universe. I don't know who updated the Universe
> > (maybe Lukas?).
> >
> > I think the .30 and .12 are numbered according to the SqueakSource
> > file name (KomHttpServer-gc.30.mcz and KomServices-gc.12.mcz).
>
> So do I. Nonetheless, it should be consistent and use either the version
> number or the monticello number, not a mix of the two.

Discuss that with Lukas and decide who will own the package on the Universe.


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Re: [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] January 2008 versions

Lukas Renggli
> > >>> KomHttpServer version 7.0.30
> > >>> KomServices version 1.12
> > >> Err, where does this version number come from? The latest versions are
> > >> 7.0.5 and 1.3.1 respectively.
> > >
> > > They come from the Universe. I don't know who updated the Universe
> > > (maybe Lukas?).
> > >
> > > I think the .30 and .12 are numbered according to the SqueakSource
> > > file name (KomHttpServer-gc.30.mcz and KomServices-gc.12.mcz).
> >
> > So do I. Nonetheless, it should be consistent and use either the version
> > number or the monticello number, not a mix of the two.
>
> Discuss that with Lukas and decide who will own the package on the Universe.

What packages? I did not touch KomHttpServer or KomServices. I am only
responsible for Seaside, Scriptaculous, Comet, Pier, Pier-*, Magritte,
Magritte-*.

Lukas

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Re: [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] January 2008 versions

Damien Cassou-3
On 1/14/08, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote:

> > > >>> KomHttpServer version 7.0.30
> > > >>> KomServices version 1.12
> > > >> Err, where does this version number come from? The latest versions are
> > > >> 7.0.5 and 1.3.1 respectively.
> > > >
> > > > They come from the Universe. I don't know who updated the Universe
> > > > (maybe Lukas?).
> > > >
> > > > I think the .30 and .12 are numbered according to the SqueakSource
> > > > file name (KomHttpServer-gc.30.mcz and KomServices-gc.12.mcz).
> > >
> > > So do I. Nonetheless, it should be consistent and use either the version
> > > number or the monticello number, not a mix of the two.
> >
> > Discuss that with Lukas and decide who will own the package on the Universe.
>
> What packages? I did not touch KomHttpServer or KomServices. I am only
> responsible for Seaside, Scriptaculous, Comet, Pier, Pier-*, Magritte,
> Magritte-*.

Ok. Giovanni, since Lukas does not maintain them, do you want to do it
yourself? If yes, send a mail to Lex Spoon and ask him the ownership
of this package.

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Re: [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] January 2008 versions

Giovanni Corriga
Damien Cassou ha scritto:

> On 1/14/08, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>> KomHttpServer version 7.0.30
>>>>>>> KomServices version 1.12
>>>>>> Err, where does this version number come from? The latest versions are
>>>>>> 7.0.5 and 1.3.1 respectively.
>>>>> They come from the Universe. I don't know who updated the Universe
>>>>> (maybe Lukas?).
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the .30 and .12 are numbered according to the SqueakSource
>>>>> file name (KomHttpServer-gc.30.mcz and KomServices-gc.12.mcz).
>>>> So do I. Nonetheless, it should be consistent and use either the version
>>>> number or the monticello number, not a mix of the two.
>>> Discuss that with Lukas and decide who will own the package on the Universe.
>> What packages? I did not touch KomHttpServer or KomServices. I am only
>> responsible for Seaside, Scriptaculous, Comet, Pier, Pier-*, Magritte,
>> Magritte-*.
>
> Ok. Giovanni, since Lukas does not maintain them, do you want to do it
> yourself? If yes, send a mail to Lex Spoon and ask him the ownership
> of this package.

I remember someone asking me on #squeak to take over the packages a
couple of months ago, but I can't really remember who that was at the
moment. I agreed to do that, but soon after I got really busy and only
now things are starting to cool off. In a couple of days I should be
able to get some kind of broadband here in my new flat, so I should be
able to start mantaining the Universe packages, too.

Damien, would you mind pinging me in a couple of weeks?

        Ciao,

                Giovanni


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Re: [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] January 2008 versions

Klaus D. Witzel
In reply to this post by Damien Cassou-3
Hi Damien,

I suggest to remove Mondrian from the squeak-dev & -web images, it allows  
expressions at development time which are bugs at production time.

Examples:
  3 + 4 value: 7
  3 @ 4 x: 7

It must be possible to make all bugs within the development system,  
otherwise the word *test* has completely different meaning in production  
systems.

TIA.

/Klaus

On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 12:11:46 +0100, Damien Cassou wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've just uploaded new squeak-dev and squeak-web images based on
> Squeak3.9-7067 and Squeak3.10-7159.
>
> http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev.html
>
> Changes in this version:
> ---------------------------
>
> - The 3.10 based images now have 32bits color depth. This prevents a
> bug with Compiz on Linux boxes and the logo looks nicer.
> - squeak-web images now contains Aida (http://www.aidaweb.si/) which
> is another Smalltalk Web Application Server. You can start it on port
> 8888 with "SwazooServer demoStart".
> - Seaside still runs on top of the http server Commanche. However, you
> can run Seaside on top of Swazoo too "SwazooSeaside startOn: 8088".
> - The OmniBrowser packages contains bug fixes and requested features
> (Ctrl+h to browse hierarchy and Ctrl+Shift+C to show category). Feel
> free to use mantis to submit more. Also, the repository is open to
> commit (source.wiresong.ca/ob) and adding features is easy; please
> help us making OB a great framework and the best browser.
>
>
> Contained packages:
> ------------------------
>
> This image contains the following packages (some packages are only in
> the squeak-web image):
>
> Aida version 5.4
> Announcements version 0.7
> AST version 154
> AutomaticMethodCategorizer version 0.24
> AutomaticMethodCategorizerServices version 0.2
> ClassSelectorSets version 1
> DynamicBindings version 2.7
> DynamicProtocols version 0.67
> eCompletion version 0.89
> eCompletion-Traits version 0.1
> eCompletionOmniBrowser version 0.4
> Installer version 1.0.130
> KomHttpServer version 7.0.30
> KomServices version 1.12
> Magritte-Model version 1.0.14.300
> Magritte-Morph version 1.0.14.39
> Magritte-Seaside version 1.0.14.248
> Magritte-Tests version 1.0.14.131
> Mondrian version 0.40
> OB-Enhancements version 0.60
> OmniBrowser version 0.404
> OmniBrowser-Full version 0.25
> OmniBrowser-Morphic version 0.43
> OmniBrowser-Refactory version 0.44
> OmniBrowser-Standard version 0.312
> OmniBrowser-SUnitIntegration version 0.9.1
> OmniBrowser-TraitsIntegration version 0.32
> Pier version current
> Pier-Blog version 1.0.14-alpha.66
> Pier-Documents version 1.0.14-alpha.3
> Pier-EditorEnh version 1.0.14-alpha.9
> Pier-Model version 1.0.14-alpha.191
> Pier-OmniBrowser version 1.0.14-alpha.31
> Pier-Seaside version 1.0.14-alpha.231
> Pier-Security version 1.0.14-alpha.102
> Pier-Tests version 1.0.14-alpha.84
> Refactoring Engine version 39
> RoelTyper version 0.60
> RSRSS2 version 2.8.9
> Scriptaculous version 2.8.228
> ScriptManager version 0.6
> Seaside version 2.8.522
> Seaside-Adapters-Core version pmm.2.mcz
> Seaside-Adapters-Swazoo version pmm.7.mcz-2
> Seaside-Squeak-Adapters version pmm.3.mcz
> SeasideAdaptersCompatibility version pmm.1.mcz
> Shout version 3.15-tween.70
> ShoutWorkspace version 1-tween.2
> SmaCC runtime version 13
> Sport version 2.31
> Squeak dev packages version 0.17
> Squeak dev packages beta version 0.20
> Squeak web packages version 0.2
> SUnit-improved version 4.0.108
> SUnitGUI-improved version 4.0.48
> Swazoo version 2.1
> ToolBuilder integration for UI Themes version 0.51
> UI Themes and Standard Widgets version 0.58
> Universes version 41
> Universes OmniBrowser version 0.35
> YAXO version 9
>
> Updating the image:
> -------------------------
>
> You are not obliged to download a new image if you don't want. You can
> always update your image.
>
> To upgrade your already existing squeak-dev image:
>
> 1) World menu->open...->Package Universe Browser
> 2) Update list from network
> 3) Select all upgrades
> 4) Install selection
> 5) Execute: 'DEVImageCreator default install' (all windows will be  
> closed)
>
>
> Prepared packages:
> --------------------------
>
> There are a lot of packages prepared for you in this image. They are
> not loaded in the image, but they can be easily.
>
> - Open Package Universe Browser (world->open...->Package Universe  
> Browser).
> - Click on "Update list from network"
> - Wait a few seconds
> - Select your packages
> - Install them
>



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Re: [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] January 2008 versions

Lukas Renggli
> I suggest to remove Mondrian from the squeak-dev & -web images, it allows
> expressions at development time which are bugs at production time.
>
> Examples:
>   3 + 4 value: 7
>   3 @ 4 x: 7

I have no idea why Mondrian is in Squeak-Dev, however these
'dangerous' class extensions are just a two click refactoring away:

1. Open Environment | Package: Mondrian
2. Method Refactoring | Rename Method: #value:/x:/y:

Done in Mondrian-lr.46 (+ a few oder fixes).

Lukas

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Re: [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] January 2008 versions

Klaus D. Witzel
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:08:48 +0100, Lukas Renggli wrote:

> Klaus wrote:
>> I suggest to remove Mondrian from the squeak-dev & -web images, it  
>> allows
>> expressions at development time which are bugs at production time.
>>
>> Examples:
>>   3 + 4 value: 7
>>   3 @ 4 x: 7
>
> I have no idea why Mondrian is in Squeak-Dev,

It's in Universe, which says:

Category: Uncategorized
Depends on:
        Announcements
Maintained by: ls
Downloads from: http://mc.lukas-renggli.ch/mondrian/Mondrian-dr.40.mcz
Homepage: http://mc.lukas-renggli.ch/mondrian/

> however these
> 'dangerous' class extensions are just a two click refactoring away:
>
> 1. Open Environment | Package: Mondrian
> 2. Method Refactoring | Rename Method: #value:/x:/y:
>
> Done in Mondrian-lr.46 (+ a few oder fixes).

Yup. Updated & tests now green; thanks much (also for Symbol>>#moValue: :)

/Klaus

> Lukas
>



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Re: [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] January 2008 versions

Damien Cassou-3
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Hi,


On Feb 3, 2008 11:59 AM, Klaus D. Witzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I suggest to remove Mondrian from the squeak-dev & -web images, it allows
> expressions at development time which are bugs at production time.

Mondrian is included into squeak-dev images because OB-Enhancements
depends on it.

David, is it possible to remove this dependency?


Thanks for the report

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Damien Cassou

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