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About 3.9

Giuseppe Luigi Punzi-2
Is 3.9 fully functional to work in a project for production use?

I'm trying to load some packages from squeakmap, and, or the package is not
published for 3.9 or the package crash on 3,9

I'm talking about komhttp for example.
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Re: About 3.9

Philippe Marschall
2007/1/27, Giuseppe Luigi Punzi <[hidden email]>:
> Is 3.9 fully functional to work in a project for production use?

Yepp.

> I'm trying to load some packages from squeakmap, and, or the package is not
> published for 3.9 or the package crash on 3,9
>
> I'm talking about komhttp for example.

Kom works the same as in 3.8. You just have to make pay attention that
the semantics of #unescapePercents changed.

> Giuseppe Luigi Punzi - Consultor
>
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Re: About 3.9

Giuseppe Luigi Punzi
But the packages are not revised to make it available to 3.9 if works?

Cheers.-

El Sábado, 27 de Enero de 2007 18:25, Philippe Marschall escribió:

> 2007/1/27, Giuseppe Luigi Punzi <[hidden email]>:
> > Is 3.9 fully functional to work in a project for production use?
>
> Yepp.
>
> > I'm trying to load some packages from squeakmap, and, or the package is
> > not published for 3.9 or the package crash on 3,9
> >
> > I'm talking about komhttp for example.
>
> Kom works the same as in 3.8. You just have to make pay attention that
> the semantics of #unescapePercents changed.
>
> > Giuseppe Luigi Punzi - Consultor
> >
> >        :: ZYO Consulting ::
> >
> >  email: [hidden email]
> >  tlfno: +34 675 145 912
> >    web: http://www.zyoconsulting.com

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Re: About 3.9

Giuseppe Luigi Punzi-2
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But the packages are not revised to make it available to 3.9 if works?

Cheers.-

El Sábado, 27 de Enero de 2007 18:25, Philippe Marschall escribió:

> 2007/1/27, Giuseppe Luigi Punzi <[hidden email]>:
> > Is 3.9 fully functional to work in a project for production use?
>
> Yepp.
>
> > I'm trying to load some packages from squeakmap, and, or the package is
> > not published for 3.9 or the package crash on 3,9
> >
> > I'm talking about komhttp for example.
>
> Kom works the same as in 3.8. You just have to make pay attention that
> the semantics of #unescapePercents changed.
>
> > Giuseppe Luigi Punzi - Consultor
> >
> >        :: ZYO Consulting ::
> >
> >  email: [hidden email]
> >  tlfno: +34 675 145 912
> >    web: http://www.zyoconsulting.com

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Re: About 3.9

Lukas Renggli
> But the packages are not revised to make it available to 3.9 if works?

If you want to use Seaside, use the package 'Seaside Installer' on
SqueakMap and it will pull in the correct prerequisites
(DynamicBindings, KomServices, KomHttp, Seaside, Scriptaculous) as
that we use for many productive Seaside applications in 3.9. Also
Magritte and Pier work well in 3.9.

Ask the maintainers of other packages to update their SqueakMap definitions.

Cheers,
Lukas

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Re: About 3.9

Göran Krampe
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Hi!

> Is 3.9 fully functional to work in a project for production use?
>
> I'm trying to load some packages from squeakmap, and, or the package is
> not
> published for 3.9 or the package crash on 3,9
>
> I'm talking about komhttp for example.

Oops. I should of course look at that... any more details?

regards, Göran


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Re: About 3.9

Philippe Marschall
2007/1/29, Göran Krampe <[hidden email]>:

> Hi!
>
> > Is 3.9 fully functional to work in a project for production use?
> >
> > I'm trying to load some packages from squeakmap, and, or the package is
> > not
> > published for 3.9 or the package crash on 3,9
> >
> > I'm talking about komhttp for example.
>
> Oops. I should of course look at that... any more details?
Yes, #unescapePercents has new semantics in 3.9, it now does utf-8
decoding. Use #unescapePercentsWithTextEncoding: nil to have the same
semantics as in previous versions (just unescape percents, not utf-8
decoding).

Cheers
Phlippe

> regards, Göran
>
>
>


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Re: About 3.9

Damien Cassou-3
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Lukas Renggli a écrit :

>> But the packages are not revised to make it available to 3.9 if works?
>
> If you want to use Seaside, use the package 'Seaside Installer' on
> SqueakMap and it will pull in the correct prerequisites
> (DynamicBindings, KomServices, KomHttp, Seaside, Scriptaculous) as
> that we use for many productive Seaside applications in 3.9. Also
> Magritte and Pier work well in 3.9.
>
> Ask the maintainers of other packages to update their SqueakMap
> definitions.

You may also use squeak-web, an image made for webdevelopers:

http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-web/

or squeak-dev:
http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev/


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Re: About 3.9

Lex Spoon-3
In reply to this post by Giuseppe Luigi Punzi-2
Giuseppe Luigi Punzi <[hidden email]> writes:
> Is 3.9 fully functional to work in a project for production use?
>
> I'm trying to load some packages from squeakmap, and, or the package is not
> published for 3.9 or the package crash on 3,9
>
> I'm talking about komhttp for example.

I have assembled such a set of 113 packages, but have not yet put
together a convenient release for developers.

If you want to try it now, I'd love any feedback you have.
What you need to do is:

  0. Start with 3.9.

  1. Install YAXO and Package Universes from SqueakMap.

  2. Install everything else you want -- including Komanche --
     via the universes browser.


Within a few weeks, I hope to post a distribution that already has
steps 0 and 1 done for you.


-Lex


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Re: About 3.9

Edgar J. De Cleene



El 1/29/07 5:40 PM, "Lex Spoon" <[hidden email]> escribió:

> Within a few weeks, I hope to post a distribution that already has
> steps 0 and 1 done for you.
>
>
> -Lex

Lex:

The plan of 3.10 is have one "user ready" image and what you said was
available for try on .

Look at mails of "Discussion about development of Squeak 3.10"
<[hidden email]>

I hope in a few days the release go to official server .

Edgar



       

       
               
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Re: About 3.9

Ralph Johnson
On 1/29/07, Edgar J. De Cleene <[hidden email]> wrote:
>

> The plan of 3.10 is have one "user ready" image and what you said was
> available for try on .

Except that as we gradually change 3.10, some of the old packages will
no longer work.  The advantage of a "packages universe" is that
everything is stable.  The advantage of 3.10 is that it will gradually
get better.  You can't have both.

-Ralph

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Re: About 3.9

Lex Spoon-3
"Ralph Johnson" <[hidden email]> writes:
> On 1/29/07, Edgar J. De Cleene <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > The plan of 3.10 is have one "user ready" image and what you said was
> > available for try on .
>
> Except that as we gradually change 3.10, some of the old packages will
> no longer work.  The advantage of a "packages universe" is that
> everything is stable.  The advantage of 3.10 is that it will gradually
> get better.  You can't have both.


Actually, a package universe can also be grown over time.  Indeed
that's where a stabilized universe comes from.  Yes, if you are
updating things, then packages break.  However, the same is true for
changes to a monolithic codebase.


  -Lex