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About new compiled method and others

stephane ducasse-2
Hi tim

What is your state of mind regarding the changes you are doing (which  
are great, needed and wished).
It seems to us that they should go in 3.10 alpha because we are late  
in the process.
Do you have strong feelings about that?

We are thinking that the changes of methodClass could be either go in  
3.9 or 3.10 but this is not clear that making such a change is wise  
so late in the process.


Stef (you see I even try to use politically correct english for a  
european and french like me this is a real challenge)


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Re: About new compiled method and others

timrowledge

On 15-Oct-06, at 2:44 AM, stephane ducasse wrote:

> Hi tim
>
> What is your state of mind regarding the changes you are doing  
> (which are great, needed and wished).

In a ideal world I think I would like the opportunity to insert these  
changes *before* the stage where you condensed the sources; it would  
allow the version history to continue for a while longer. What I'm  
doing should allow 256Mb source/change files plus open the door for  
more interesting ways of storing source. It would mean retreating to  
beta for a month or so. I understand that we are not in an ideal world.

Obviously, changes to a basic facility like source access ought to  
get some testing before general release so I guess the changes should  
wait for the next release - preferably a near term release that  
concentrates on cleanups and bug fixes and not making enormous  
alterations.

> It seems to us that they should go in 3.10 alpha because we are  
> late in the process.
> Do you have strong feelings about that?

Well, yes I do, but a lot of people are very tired and frazzled and  
following my feelings about process would probably just melt people's  
brains right now. I  most definitely wish I had had more time  
available months ago to do anything helpful but I didn't and that's  
just how it is. We must try to move onwards.

>
> Stef (you see I even try to use politically correct english for a  
> european and french like me this is a real challenge)

I don't worry too much about 'politically correct' but I do hope we  
can manage a reasonable level of politeness in general.

{Then again, that was the original intent of the foolishness that has  
grown into political correctness. Let a few self-important academics  
get hold of the idea, cook in a steamer of bureaucratic busybodying,  
mix in some timid administrators and some annoying lawyers and pretty  
soon "let's try not to stereotype people and avoid insulting  
everyone" turns into an exercise in newspeak self-censorship. Sigh.}


tim
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stephane ducasse-2
Ok so continue and we test and focus on your changes on the next  
iteration.

By the way I'm most of the time not politically correct and direct  
but never impolite (or at least I try not to). The problem is really
mail and the short amount of time we should spend write them if we  
want to have a chance to do something else.
I decided to write less.

>
>> Hi tim
>>
>> What is your state of mind regarding the changes you are doing  
>> (which are great, needed and wished).
>
> In a ideal world I think I would like the opportunity to insert  
> these changes *before* the stage where you condensed the sources;  
> it would allow the version history to continue for a while longer.  
> What I'm doing should allow 256Mb source/change files plus open the  
> door for more interesting ways of storing source. It would mean  
> retreating to beta for a month or so. I understand that we are not  
> in an ideal world.
>
> Obviously, changes to a basic facility like source access ought to  
> get some testing before general release so I guess the changes  
> should wait for the next release - preferably a near term release  
> that concentrates on cleanups and bug fixes and not making enormous  
> alterations.
>
>> It seems to us that they should go in 3.10 alpha because we are  
>> late in the process.
>> Do you have strong feelings about that?
>
> Well, yes I do, but a lot of people are very tired and frazzled and  
> following my feelings about process would probably just melt  
> people's brains right now. I  most definitely wish I had had more  
> time available months ago to do anything helpful but I didn't and  
> that's just how it is. We must try to move onwards.
>
>>
>> Stef (you see I even try to use politically correct english for a  
>> european and french like me this is a real challenge)
>
> I don't worry too much about 'politically correct' but I do hope we  
> can manage a reasonable level of politeness in general.
>
> {Then again, that was the original intent of the foolishness that  
> has grown into political correctness. Let a few self-important  
> academics get hold of the idea, cook in a steamer of bureaucratic  
> busybodying, mix in some timid administrators and some annoying  
> lawyers and pretty soon "let's try not to stereotype people and  
> avoid insulting everyone" turns into an exercise in newspeak self-
> censorship. Sigh.}
>
>
> tim
> --
> tim Rowledge; [hidden email]; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
> Mommy!  The cursor's winking at me!
>
>
>