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Re: Amber alternative browser

Nicolas Petton
Yep, I'm back :)

What you could do it write a fake browser. It doesn't have to be in Amber or anything, Pharo would do, but I'd like to see your concept running to get a feeling of how it would be.
What do you think?

Nico
On Aug 6, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Geert Claes <[hidden email]> wrote:

> @Nico: back from holidays already?
>
> I know the idea I put forward will not suit everyone but as Sebastian said,
> alternatives can only be a good thing no?  And yes, I agree that it doesn't
> make any sense to do development on a phone, the aim should be to come up
> with the right balance of an IDE that's intuitive, appealing and productive.
>
> @Sebastian and @Herby regarding the class hierachy.  Again I concur that
> there is a need to show the class hierarchy, just not convinced that it
> needs to be done by indenting the content of a particular package because it
> only shows part of the hierarchy.  something like this perhaps:
> http://bootply.com/render/71935
>
> I do like the idea of having different icons for different types as Helios
> is doing with Widgets, Collections, TestCase etc
>
> Anyhow, they are all just ideas.  I tried to get an understanding on how
> Helios shows all the packages and classes but I have to admit I am a bit
> lost :)   If someone could help me get started I wouldn't mind playing
> around with a few scenarios but I have for example no idea how to get all
> the packages and parse them at the "-" and display them as in the Bootply
> (note: the Importer-Exporter package should probably be renamed without the
> "-")
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Re: Amber alternative browser

Geert Claes
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I hope you had a great, relaxing holiday buddy :)

If I was able to write the browser concept I think I would have done so already.  Pharo's Morphic is just too weird for me and confuses me even more, so I was hoping I could do something with Amber instead.  I managed to create a quick Twitter Bootstrap Bootply prototype, but I would like to see that working with the actual Amber packages and classes.  I am afraid I am too much of a n00b :)

The closest I can give to get a feeling of how it would be is this:
Bootply prototype: http://bootply.com/render/71190
Click on Helios will show: http://bootply.com/render/71377
Click on Commands will show: http://bootply.com/render/71378
Click on Core will show: http://bootply.com/render/71385
Click on HLOpenBrowserCommand will show: http://bootply.com/render/71935
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Re: Amber alternative browser

Herby Vojčík
With Trapped (data-bound widgets inspired by angularjs approach) and HTML snippets (specially marking parts of html and using them as tag in amber; it is already built in), it should not be that hard to make it traverse real Amber packages and classes.

Trapped should help you nicely split View from Model.
Snippets should help you with implementation of the view by abstracting parts of HTML for you and less actual code needs to be written.

You can call me via skype (druidkin) or TeamViewer.

Herby

Geert Claes wrote:

> I hope you had a great, relaxing holiday buddy :)
>
> If I was able to write the browser concept I think I would have done so
> already.  Pharo's Morphic is just too weird for me and confuses me even
> more, so I was hoping I could do something with Amber instead.  I managed to
> create a quick Twitter Bootstrap Bootply prototype, but I would like to see
> that working with the actual Amber packages and classes.  I am afraid I am
> too much of a n00b :)
>
> Th
e closest I can give to get a feeling of how it would be is this:

> Bootply prototype: http://bootply.com/render/71190
> Click on Helios will show: http://bootply.com/render/71377
> Click on Commands will show: http://bootply.com/render/71378
> Click on Core will show: http://bootply.com/render/71385
> Click on HLOpenBrowserCommand will show: http://bootply.com/render/71935
>
>
>
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Re: Amber alternative browser

Geert Claes
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@Herby A quick Google and I found your "Trapped" project on GitHub: https://github.com/herby/trapped and it does look interresting.

I have setup a repository for "AmberBuilder" on GitHub and added yourself, Nico and Sebastian https://github.com/GeertClaes/AmberBuilder

Would you guys like to help put a little prototype together?  I can probably help with the code for the snippets to begin with :)
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