AndreasSystemProfiler Released MIT

> Developers work with the Non-Core image daily. The Pharo-Kernel is a
> subset of it. So problems get detected.
>
> In the end this is the same approach which we have here in Squeak with
>
>      SmalltalkImage unloadAllKnownPackages
>
>      (We actually would need a integration server process which does this).
>
> But this does not answer the question which SystemProfiler should be
> included in the Non-Core image which people use daily.....
>
> We might just put a load script in the 'Extending the system' workspace.
>
> --Hannes
>
> On 1/26/13, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> On 26.01.2013, at 12:04, "H. Hirzel" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> There is the Pharo 2.0 image which is the developer image and a
>>> smaller one called 'Pharo Kernel'.
>>>
>>> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/Pharo-Kernel-2.0/
>>>
>>> Both have various builds with various packages.
>>>
>>> --Hannes
>>
>> How does that deal with the problem Yanni described?
>>
>> - Bert -
>>
>>
>>> On 1/26/13, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> On 26.01.2013, at 04:58, Yanni Chiu <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 25/01/13 1:48 PM, H. Hirzel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So this might be a good opportunity to start building another
>>>>>> distribution/release with what Frank proposes. So besides the current
>>>>>> one at http://www.squeakci.org/job/ReleaseSqueakTrunk/ we would have
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> "developer's release' with additional packages....
>>>>>
>>>>> +1/-1
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't forget the Pharo experience. There used to be a Pharo-Core-1.3
>>>>> and
>>>>> Pharo-1.3 (a.k.a. Pharo-dev).
>>>>>
>>>>> There was a ton of confusion when people reported a bug in "Pharo" -
>>>>> sometimes that meant Core, sometimes not.
>>>>>
>>>>> With Pharo-1.4, the distinction between Core and non-Core was
>>>>> abandoned.
>>>>> IIUC, the reason was that developers worked day-to-day with the
>>>>> non-Core
>>>>> image - refactoring and so on - then had to make sure the changes
>>>>> worked
>>>>> in Core too. Going the other way, when working only in Core, if code
>>>>> is
>>>>> refactored or eliminated (because it looks like no senders in Core),
>>>>> then
>>>>> the problems would show up later when the non-Core image is built or
>>>>> run.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So what is their solution now?
>>>>
>>>> - Bert -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

>
>
>
> On 1/26/13 8:12 AM, "H. Hirzel" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>  SmalltalkImage unloadAllKnownPackages
>>
>>      (We actually would need a integration server process which does this).
>
>
> Frank ?
> Any successful build on the mini ?
> Like discuss some glue needed for unload GetText and Enviroments.
> Have a manual build SqueakRosCore4dot4-12346.image working , with some
> changes from Trunk.

> Thank you very much, Ron. Now folks, let's get out there and use this!
>
> Chris, might I lean on you a bit to add a SqueakMap entry for the profiler?
>
> The install script is
>
> Installer ss3
>     project: 'AndreasSystemProfiler';
>     install: 'AndreasProfiler'.
>
> Thanks!
>
> frank
>
>
> On 23 January 2013 20:58, Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> In Memory of Andreas Raab
>> http://forum.world.st/In-Memory-of-Andreas-Raab-td4663424.html
>>
>> We have renamed and released the AndreasSystemProfiler.
>>
>> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/AndreasSystemProfiler.html
>>
>> Using the MIT License.
>>
>> Thank you Eliot for your help to get this ready.  The profiler works with
>> Squeak 4.4.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Ron Teitelbaum, Julie LeMoine and David Smith
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email] [mailto:squeak-dev-
>>> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Andreas.Raab
>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:39 PM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: [squeak-dev] Re: Profiling
>>>
>>> Levente Uzonyi-2 wrote
>>> > It uses some primitives which were added to the CogVM, so it requires
>> Cog.
>>> > We could reimplement it from scratch using the same primitives and get
>>> > a better profiler in the image. We can't include this due to the GPL
>>> > license.
>>>
>>> Or ask Ron if 3dicc (which bought all the rights to the Teleplace IP and
>>> Software) can re-release the code under a more permissable license.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>   - Andreas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Profiling-
>>> tp4662704p4662987.html
>>> Sent from the Squeak - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

> Done, AndreasSystemProfiler is now on SqueakMap as a
> Community-Supported Package.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Frank Shearar <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Thank you very much, Ron. Now folks, let's get out there and use this!
>>
>> Chris, might I lean on you a bit to add a SqueakMap entry for the profiler?
>>
>> The install script is
>>
>> Installer ss3
>>     project: 'AndreasSystemProfiler';
>>     install: 'AndreasProfiler'.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> frank
>>
>>
>> On 23 January 2013 20:58, Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> In Memory of Andreas Raab
>>> http://forum.world.st/In-Memory-of-Andreas-Raab-td4663424.html
>>>
>>> We have renamed and released the AndreasSystemProfiler.
>>>
>>> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/AndreasSystemProfiler.html
>>>
>>> Using the MIT License.
>>>
>>> Thank you Eliot for your help to get this ready.  The profiler works with
>>> Squeak 4.4.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Ron Teitelbaum, Julie LeMoine and David Smith
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [hidden email] [mailto:squeak-dev-
>>>> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Andreas.Raab
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:39 PM
>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>> Subject: [squeak-dev] Re: Profiling
>>>>
>>>> Levente Uzonyi-2 wrote
>>>> > It uses some primitives which were added to the CogVM, so it requires
>>> Cog.
>>>> > We could reimplement it from scratch using the same primitives and get
>>>> > a better profiler in the image. We can't include this due to the GPL
>>>> > license.
>>>>
>>>> Or ask Ron if 3dicc (which bought all the rights to the Teleplace IP and
>>>> Software) can re-release the code under a more permissable license.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>   - Andreas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Profiling-
>>>> tp4662704p4662987.html
>>>> Sent from the Squeak - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:squeak-dev-
> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Frank Shearar
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 5:55 PM
> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] AndreasSystemProfiler Released MIT
>
> On 23 January 2013 20:58, Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > In Memory of Andreas Raab
> > http://forum.world.st/In-Memory-of-Andreas-Raab-td4663424.html
> >
> > We have renamed and released the AndreasSystemProfiler.
> >
> > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/AndreasSystemProfiler.html
>
> Ron,
>
> How do you want people to contribute back to this project? I have a small
> improvement for you.
>
> frank
>

> Hi Frank,
>
> Eliot will be maintaining AndreasSystemProfiler.  Could you send the change
> to him?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ron
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email] [mailto:squeak-dev-
>> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Frank Shearar
>> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 5:55 PM
>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
>> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] AndreasSystemProfiler Released MIT
>>
>> On 23 January 2013 20:58, Ron Teitelbaum <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > Hello All,
>> >
>> > In Memory of Andreas Raab
>> > http://forum.world.st/In-Memory-of-Andreas-Raab-td4663424.html
>> >
>> > We have renamed and released the AndreasSystemProfiler.
>> >
>> > http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/AndreasSystemProfiler.html
>>
>> Ron,
>>
>> How do you want people to contribute back to this project? I have a small
>> improvement for you.
>>
>> frank
>>
>
>
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