Richard, another entertaining smalltalk read; thx :)
If when you wrote the prequel you hadn't already meant to follow up w/ the e-car parallel, perhaps refer to this mailing list and attendant discussion and tbrunz' specific comments here: http://forum.world.st/Smalltalk-It-s-Not-Your-Grandfather-s-Programming-Language-tp5109548p5109556.html ? -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
Thanks, xap! Great sequel, Richard. I really like the lead image, too.
(Red was a good choice.) This makes me wonder what other technology turn-arounds and revivals exist in history... ;^) -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
Thanks, Ted.
Yes, I chose red for the Tesla because it complements the blue I chose for the Maserati. You see, everything I do has a reason. I was also wondering what other technologies have undergone a revival. To be honest, it's hard to come up with anything. (Even the Buratino rocket launcher fits in with this motif. Three vehicles, all with a similar visual orientation.) I suppose I could cite Objective-C as an example. In the late 1980s, it was chosen by Steve Jobs' NeXT company for developing their software. As we all know, NeXT ultimately failed and along with it, Objective-C. Many years later, Apple's iPhone made Objective-C the darling of the IT world. This was a tremendous revival. The problem with this story is that NeXT/Objective-C was never /really/ that popular to begin with. Maybe I can cite the audio turntable. It was once very popular. Then it died with the arrival of the CD. In recent years, vinyl records have again found a following. tbrunz wrote > Thanks, xap! Great sequel, Richard. I really like the lead image, too. > (Red was a good choice.) > > This makes me wonder what other technology turn-arounds and revivals exist > in history... ;^) > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
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Just to clarify, as I see it:
-- this OP (http://forum.world.st/Smalltalk-It-s-Not-Your-Grandfather-s-Programming-Language-tp5109548.html) announces article "Smalltalk: It’s Not Your Grandparent’s Programming Language"; the article has 1 occurrence of the word "car", and refers to a Maserati -- tbrunz' comment is the first in that thread to mention "electric car" and to compare it to Smalltalk (http://forum.world.st/Smalltalk-It-s-Not-Your-Grandfather-s-Programming-Language-tp5109548p5109556.html) -- then this OP (http://forum.world.st/As-promised-the-sequel-tt5109954.html) announces article "How is Smalltalk’s revival like the e-car’s revival?" Hence my earlier note that if you "hadn't already meant to follow up w/ the e-car parallel, perhaps refer to this mailing list" (which would be great exposure for the list), and to cite/credit the genesis of the article's thesis. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
Thanks, xap... This is citation enough for me. (It's also documented in the
comment section of his articles, which is where it actually originated before being echoed here.) Richard has my full support, and my implicit (now explicit) permission to freely borrow my ideas for his nicely-crafted essays. He has the time to write what I would, were I retired myself. And since I fully support his purpose, this is my contribution to "the cause". -t -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
tbrunz, my comment above was to pander to my own selfish views of
how-the-world-ought -to-work than for your benefit ;-) My own druthers would have been to refer to this list and your comments in the para "Pharo is also extremely versatile which is well-explained in this article, “Smalltalk: It’s Not Your Grandparent’s Programming Language.”" As it is -- to me -- it smacks vaguely of plagiarism, and is the sort of stunt that gets one expelled -- certainly, called up to the dean -- in an educational institution of any standing. I expect more inclusivity and grace from a community builder or evangelist. But, that's me. *shrug* :) -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
Getting an idea suggestion for an article is plagiarism???
I get ideas from all kinds of sources. From friends. From strangers. From television and movies. Et cetera. There's no point in citing all of them. xap wrote > tbrunz, my comment above was to pander to my own selfish views of > how-the-world-ought -to-work than for your benefit ;-) > > My own druthers would have been to refer to this list and your comments in > the para "Pharo is also extremely versatile which is well-explained in > this > article, “Smalltalk: It’s Not Your Grandparent’s Programming Language.”" > > As it is -- to me -- it smacks vaguely of plagiarism, and is the sort of > stunt that gets one expelled -- certainly, called up to the dean -- in an > educational institution of any standing. I expect more inclusivity and > grace > from a community builder or evangelist. > > But, that's me. > > *shrug* > > :) > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
Exactly. I gave you a suggestion for an article. That's hardly plagiarism
by any definition. Keep up the good work, Richard! You're selflessly filling a real need, and it's appreciated. -t -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
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"Getting an idea suggestion for an article is plagiarism???"
perhaps that was rhetorical, what with the tripled punctuation. erring on the side it's not, broadly, unattributed, yes. here's oxford: https://www.ox.ac.uk/students/academic/guidance/skills/plagiarism here's webster: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/plagiarize it's a matter of attribution; in no way does it diminish work that you put in to develop or elucidate an idea (but you know all this of course). "I get ideas from all kinds of sources. ... There's no point in citing all of them." well, whomp, there it is ;-) separately, to distinguish baby from bathwater, your pieces come up in interwebz searches around smalltalk, the ones I've come by have been always readable often informative, and (as i've said before) thank you for the work that goes into making them available -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html |
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